tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1054873890496220194..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Guns Don't Kill People; Floors DoAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65859656477850206212010-10-14T20:42:13.107+02:002010-10-14T20:42:13.107+02:00I don't know. Does a dropped gun even make th...I don't know. Does a dropped gun even make the news if no one is injured?<br /><br />Even if the gun is of modern design, and has been built to resist firing in the event of being dropped, that doesn't mean it's guaranteed it won't fire--it just means that it shouldn't. <br /><br />Cars with airbags are designed so that they deploy under certain circumstances. That doesn't mean they won't deploy under other circumstances--just that they shouldn't.<br /><br />I really don't get why you're all hung up on this. Are you looking for guarantees?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79365909495448159032010-10-14T11:45:06.819+02:002010-10-14T11:45:06.819+02:00Anonymous, I guess you're right. Gun owners a...Anonymous, I guess you're right. Gun owners are dropping their guns all the time and they only rarely go off. Is that the idea?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-67636189138312689242010-10-08T17:58:24.407+02:002010-10-08T17:58:24.407+02:00"We've seen far more of these than we'..."We've seen far more of these than we've seen of DGUs"<br /><br />You say that, but you haven't shown that. Where are all the "dropped gun going off" stories?<br /><br />Has there been more than two this year? The only other post on a dropped gun this year was this one:<br />http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2010/06/target-practice-in-michigan.html<br /><br />Have you been posting them elsewhere, because I don't see them. Even if you have and I have missed them, do we know the facts about the case? Guns last a long time. Do we know the age of the weapon in question, and if it even had a drop safety?<br /><br />The DGU's are another matter. Suffice to say, I don't want to get into the comparison of one vs the other, because that wasn't the point. If you want to make it the point, do a post on DGU vs dropped guns, and your supposition that the media is ignoring, or under-reporting either or both.<br /><br />I'll respond to that there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27094057292130433792010-10-08T09:17:10.880+02:002010-10-08T09:17:10.880+02:00Anonymous, We've seen far more of these than w...Anonymous, We've seen far more of these than we've seen of DGUs, you know, the things that happen millions of times each year.<br /><br />Hoe do you explain that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47579242813416564192010-10-07T22:12:33.665+02:002010-10-07T22:12:33.665+02:00So, you think the media is hiding all of the "...So, you think the media is hiding all of the "other cases" of dropped guns going off and injuring/killing people?<br /><br />Or, alternatively, do you believe the media is ignoring those "other cases?"<br /><br />Lastly, you claim there is a frequency of these reports. Please elaborate. I don't recall there being that many, or have you been posting them on some other blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-66318772021611503132010-10-07T09:51:01.369+02:002010-10-07T09:51:01.369+02:00Anonymous asked, "Why is the addition of a sa...Anonymous asked, <i>"Why is the addition of a safety designed to make the user less likely to be injured in the case of a dropped gun so unlikely in your mind?"</i><br /><br />Well, the first clue is the frequency of reports in the news which presumably are only a tiny percentage of the times this happens.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22207798100970560242010-10-06T20:43:03.158+02:002010-10-06T20:43:03.158+02:00"I'm sure most of you guys who comment he..."I'm sure most of you guys who comment here use that "drop safety" thingie, right?"<br /><br />They do if they drop their gun and it was made sometime after the mid-eighties or so.<br /><br />"About the modern guns not firing when dropped, I notice you guys always include that little qualifier "shouldn't fire.""<br /><br />Well, pardon us for being accurate in our wording. We'll get to work right away on being misleading or telling outright lies, like Guy does.<br /><br />"Are you saying that ALL modern firearms have this built-in resistance to firing when dropped.[?]"<br /><br />There might be some manufacterers that don't. The guys along the Khyber pass probably don't build it into their guns. But if it is a modern, recognizable name like Ruger, Colt, Springfield Arms, Smith&Wesson, Glock, Walther, Remington, Winchester, Khar, or even Hi-Point, then yes. Can't find any info on Raven Jennings Bryco, or Lorcin Davis Cobra but who knows, even they might.<br /><br />Why is the addition of a safety designed to make the user less likely to be injured in the case of a dropped gun so unlikely in your mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20825774947976465122010-10-06T16:06:46.769+02:002010-10-06T16:06:46.769+02:00Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're ...<i>Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're not 100% infallible. </i><br /><br />Show me one mechanical device that is 100% infallible....<br /><br />It's laughable to hear a pathological liar claim he is infallible. Good one Jade / Guy.<br /><br />Every single one of my handguns is drop safe, as are the overwhelming majority of guns made today. Most of mine also have a firing pin block.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5597080890515516972010-10-06T14:40:04.003+02:002010-10-06T14:40:04.003+02:00Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're ...Drop safeties are fine and dandy, but they're not 100% infallible. <br /><br />OTOH, I am.<br /><br />But aside from the fact many gunloons like to claim that a dropped weapon never, never, ever discharges--this story points up the fact that many gunloons simply are incapable of exerting positive control over the firearms.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14206524092046155882010-10-06T13:04:59.181+02:002010-10-06T13:04:59.181+02:00I chose my primary handgun because it not only has...I chose my primary handgun because it not only has a drop safety, but also a firing pin block safety, designed to prevent discharge even if the entire top slide/barrel/firing pin is torn off the grip.Van Dykehttp://undhimmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rukhsana.jpgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17663423383264611282010-10-06T12:41:00.139+02:002010-10-06T12:41:00.139+02:00I can honestly tell you that every handgun I own h...I can honestly tell you that every handgun I own has a drop safety.<br /><br />Also, every newly manufactured handgun that I know of comes standard with such safeties.Kevin H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19755821299965036132010-10-06T12:30:19.412+02:002010-10-06T12:30:19.412+02:00I'm sure most of you guys who comment here use...I'm sure most of you guys who comment here use that "drop safety" thingie, right?<br /><br />About the modern guns not firing when dropped, I notice you guys always include that little qualifier "shouldn't fire." <br /><br />Are you saying that ALL modern firearms have this built-in resistance to firing when dropped.<br /><br />I don't think so.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-30119110428359860382010-10-06T04:26:43.344+02:002010-10-06T04:26:43.344+02:00Guy the fucking idiot says:
"According to gun...Guy the fucking idiot says:<br />"According to gunloons, this never, never happens..."<br /><br />No, Guy, what is said concerning guns being dropped is that modern guns are designed with prevention of this scenario in mind, so that when a modern firearm is dropped, it shouldn't fire. As usual, your reading comprehension is lacking.<br /><br />We don't know the age of the firearm.<br /><br />We don't know whether the husband or one of the friends actually fired the gun, then made up the story of a dropped gun, especially since no further investigation seems to be coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79930773105586797412010-10-06T03:49:55.531+02:002010-10-06T03:49:55.531+02:00... And that's proof Jade has no idea that dro...... And that's proof Jade has no idea that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_%28firearms%29#Drop_safeties" rel="nofollow">drop safeties</a> exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com