tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1228475986834359529..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Texas Open Carry Advocate, Kory Watkins, Defines Treason and Threatens Politicians with DeathAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85238247898602088452015-02-16T19:53:28.620+01:002015-02-16T19:53:28.620+01:00Support him- no. Defend him- yes. You're mak...Support him- no. Defend him- yes. You're making false accusations that I am calling you out on. The video does not constitute a "direct threat"- that is my point. He may be the biggest jerk in the world, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to point out your inconsistencies and bias when on display.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42664412019730283752015-02-16T16:32:07.030+01:002015-02-16T16:32:07.030+01:00You guys are showing your true colors, not that I ...<i>You guys are showing your true colors, not that I had any doubt, in supporting and defending this idiot Watkins.</i><br /><br />Well, in my case, my "support and defense" of Watkins was limited to the remarkable similarity between the gist of his controversial statement and Horwitz's. If that's the extentt of such "support and defense," Watkins would appear to be pretty much on his own.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11036296981893425852015-02-16T13:13:33.968+01:002015-02-16T13:13:33.968+01:00You guys are showing your true colors, not that I ...You guys are showing your true colors, not that I had any doubt, in supporting and defending this idiot Watkins.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16350141947596108052015-02-15T19:25:43.212+01:002015-02-15T19:25:43.212+01:00"Those people"? Who are those people? ..."Those people"? Who are those people? And did he directly threaten them, or did he say that what "they" are doing is a crime of which they could be arrested for, put on trial, and if convicted sentenced to death by the government? That's the main reason why neither of these is a threat. Pointing out that something is a crime doesn't mean the person who does so intends to act as judge, jury, and executioner. You said Kurt never felt threatened. Ok, so who is the person who says they felt threatened by Mr. Watkins?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84028403948395300982015-02-15T18:37:43.246+01:002015-02-15T18:37:43.246+01:00True, you always talk out of both sides of your mo...True, you always talk out of both sides of your mouth. Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-60373576364436666692015-02-15T17:32:37.321+01:002015-02-15T17:32:37.321+01:00Horwitz made two separate statements which only wh...<i>Horwitz made two separate statements which only when combined, out of context, make up the supposed threat against Kurt . . . </i><br /><br />First, why is there a problem with combining his two statements? He made both of them, after all. Second, in what "context" does A) accusing me of treason (a charge with which <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/11/josh-horwitz-on-confederacy-of-dunces.html" rel="nofollow">you seem to agree</a>), and B) stating that treason is punishable by death; <i>not</i> constitute advocacy of my being treated with the lethal injection flavor of Obamacare?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74572631035124095522015-02-15T12:33:01.300+01:002015-02-15T12:33:01.300+01:00Watkins directly threatened those who block open c...Watkins directly threatened those who block open carry. Horwitz made two separate statements which only when combined, out of context, make up the supposed threat against Kurt, who, by the way didn't feel threatened.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7326460794122135352015-02-15T02:59:42.166+01:002015-02-15T02:59:42.166+01:00"I guess your mother didn't teach you to ..."I guess your mother didn't teach you to be civilized human being who doesn't go around threatening people's lives, or supporting those who do."<br /><br /> I just responded to both sides of your or statement. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23997053224772449122015-02-14T17:19:25.475+01:002015-02-14T17:19:25.475+01:00No. What reasons do you have to say yes? Whom wa...No. What reasons do you have to say yes? Whom was he threatening?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89838897294956528782015-02-14T16:27:30.081+01:002015-02-14T16:27:30.081+01:00The Watkins thing came much closer to being a real...<i>The Watkins thing came much closer to being a real threat.</i><br /><br />Speaking only for myself, and not for TS, I'll acknowledge that I didn't feel <i>threatened</i> by CSGV's (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/CoalitiontoStopGunViolence/posts/477637695615011?comment_id=5550300&offset=0&total_comments=39" rel="nofollow">and Laci's</a>, for that matter) efforts to sic the government on me--I knew that this country has still not fallen nearly far enough for their attempt to get me arrested (for a capital crime) to be anything but great hilarity.<br /><br />The fact remains that CSGV has repeatedly accused me of "treason" (and you yourself, <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/11/josh-horwitz-on-confederacy-of-dunces.html" rel="nofollow">quoting Horwitz's "treason" charge</a>, called me a "traitor" (and a "dunce")), and they later emphasized that the penalty for treason is death.<br /><br />It's not a threat, but it's a pretty good window into what they would <i>like</i> to happen.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34496532877688164232015-02-14T13:22:24.561+01:002015-02-14T13:22:24.561+01:00You're being stubbornly unreasonable. The Wat...You're being stubbornly unreasonable. The Watkins thing came much closer to being a real threat. Yes or no?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35212381136004585562015-02-14T13:15:53.343+01:002015-02-14T13:15:53.343+01:00Thanks fror another lie SS> Reread what I said,...Thanks fror another lie SS> Reread what I said, did I say you threatened anyone? I await your next lie.Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-59109885513591162132015-02-14T00:25:35.258+01:002015-02-14T00:25:35.258+01:00They both called out acts that they called "t...They both called out acts that they called "treason" and they both pointed out how treason is punishable by death. The only difference is that Horwitz called out these "treasoners" by name, which is usually needed to constitute a threat. It has to have direction, and not just "the government".<br /><br />For the record, I don't think either is a legitimate threat, but if you are going to call what Mr. Watkins said a threat, then you certainly have to say the same about Horwitz- unless you are just extremely biased.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56192832527004196422015-02-13T18:12:58.620+01:002015-02-13T18:12:58.620+01:00As I said earlier, I don't support Mr. Watkins...As I said earlier, I don't support Mr. Watkins. However, his statements don't seem to rise to the level of criminal conduct. And I don't think I've ever threatened anyone here.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64051744720088767992015-02-13T15:48:52.475+01:002015-02-13T15:48:52.475+01:00I guess your mother didn't teach you to be civ...I guess your mother didn't teach you to be civilized human being who doesn't go around threatening people's lives, or supporting those who do. That's easy to see since you continue to be an insulting, lying asshole to Sandra, me, and others on this blog who disagree with your dishonest garbage. Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53450388024421911412015-02-12T22:42:44.881+01:002015-02-12T22:42:44.881+01:00After you've been here a while Sammy, you'...After you've been here a while Sammy, you'll come to know that threatening isn't my style. However, I'm also heavily into individual rights, even for those I don't agree with. <br /> Mr. Watkins' antics have had a very negative effect on gun legislation in the short term, and I hope someone can tighten his shot group. However, until his speech wanders over the line into unprotected, or criminal speech, he is free to say what he wishes. <br /> If I had a chance to talk to him, I'd be tempted to quote my mother when I did something stupid. She's say, "shake up your brains"ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58789713503106139192015-02-12T18:37:10.747+01:002015-02-12T18:37:10.747+01:00Nice dodge SS, glad to see you support those who g...Nice dodge SS, glad to see you support those who go around threatening people's lives. Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89342924570623018392015-02-12T16:47:19.582+01:002015-02-12T16:47:19.582+01:00TS, did you go to Kurt's links? Did you see w...TS, did you go to Kurt's links? Did you see what Kurt said? I certainly didn't. What those links show is a far cry from what Kory said.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-39001063188696836392015-02-12T01:29:19.021+01:002015-02-12T01:29:19.021+01:00I asked if you think Josh Horwitz made a threat ag...I asked if you think Josh Horwitz made a threat against Kurt. I really don't see how your response has anything to do with the question I asked you. So was it a threat, or not?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50963841383605430952015-02-11T23:11:33.772+01:002015-02-11T23:11:33.772+01:00"Love the way you guys stick up for the assho..."Love the way you guys stick up for the assholes of society. "<br /><br /> Actually its the ACLU that specializes in free speech issues,<br /><br />"The ACLU has often been at the center of controversy for defending the free speech rights of groups that spew hate, such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis. But if only popular ideas were protected, we wouldn't need a First Amendment. History teaches that the first target of government repression is never the last. If we do not come to the defense of the free speech rights of the most unpopular among us, even if their views are antithetical to the very freedom the First Amendment stands for, then no one's liberty will be secure. In that sense, all First Amendment rights are "indivisible."<br /><br />https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/freedom-expression#2<br /><br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91461944147776394042015-02-11T18:48:50.848+01:002015-02-11T18:48:50.848+01:00Pathetic backtracking.Pathetic backtracking.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37827850731797016622015-02-11T18:48:01.580+01:002015-02-11T18:48:01.580+01:00Well, I don't know if the question of whether ...Well, I don't know if the question of whether or not it was a crime is determined by whether or not charges are brought. This is Texas, after all. The decision makers might be a bit more sympathetic to this lunatic than they would be in, say, MA, for example.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25156504143852415882015-02-11T18:13:32.578+01:002015-02-11T18:13:32.578+01:00TS, it's your kind of thinking that creates a ...TS, it's your kind of thinking that creates a more violent society. keep defending the assholes of society. Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-90656913214198486072015-02-11T18:11:15.417+01:002015-02-11T18:11:15.417+01:00"whether, or not you are charged threatening ..."whether, or not you are charged threatening someones life is an acceptable way to communicate in society, right?"<br /><br />So if there are no criminal charges, it's OK to go around threatening people's lives? That's they way to communicate in society? Love the way you guys stick up for the assholes of society. Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56183809313912801432015-02-10T19:23:05.481+01:002015-02-10T19:23:05.481+01:00"So I can threaten to kill you and you can..."So I can threaten to kill you and you can't make a complaint to the police?"<br /><br /> Anyone can call the police if they feel they're being threatened. Then the police, or the prosecutor has to determine if it rises to the level of a criminal act. I'm sure this got looked at in that light since Watkins isn't very popular with law enforcement. <br /> He goes out regularly and makes videos of police making arrests. I doubt anyone cut him any slack just because he is pro-gun. <br /><br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.com