tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post138747263197942330..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Barack Hussein Obama – The Worst (Blackest) U.S. President Ever! Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79984202494192052882015-02-27T16:38:28.488+01:002015-02-27T16:38:28.488+01:00I guess SJ won't share those "stories&quo...I guess SJ won't share those "stories" with us. No surprise. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21150086382943807912015-02-24T18:58:42.519+01:002015-02-24T18:58:42.519+01:00MikeB: "So, your comparison to the bin Laden ...MikeB: "So, your comparison to the bin Laden operation, which he very well may have been involved in, is a poor one."<br /><br />Yeah, that wasn't my best work. You raise a good counter. Obama is pleading ignorance in Fast and Furious as opposed to pleading bad intelligence. The comparison was to Bush and the intelligence on WMDs, not Obama's information on Bin Laden, though.<br /><br />I still stand by evidence, while you are operating on conspiracy theories. What say you to that?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65969159942004056192015-02-24T18:26:06.203+01:002015-02-24T18:26:06.203+01:00"GJ, tell me why we don't hear about that..."GJ, tell me why we don't hear about that. Fox News devotes its entire programming to bashing Obama, but for some reason I never hear about those accusations. How do you explain that?"......As MSNBC devotes its time to bashing anything conservative......Well Mike these things happened four years ago and as everyone is aware most people forget what they had for breakfast....As far as your fox news assertion there is one thing they love more than they do not like Obama and that is the killing of anyone even remotely associated with anyone thought to be engaged in terrorism...just look to John McCain and his constant beating of the warmonger drum that America must kill kill kill to understand Foxs position in my opinion and why they did not attack the POTUS for his crimes like you Mike assume they would...and now even you Mike want to send in the Marines to Kill and die for what...The continuation of the illusion that we live in a safe and peaceful world... Though Im happy see the Egyptians ,Jordanians,and even the Iranians taking an interest in the evil their fellow Muslims are perpetrating its sad that they are not so upset about the killing in general as they are the violation of Islamic law with the burning of people....either way The US should pull all assets from the region and leave them to kill each other....we can deal with it here as needed...And stop watching the so called news channels Mike they are rotting your brain..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85559359817945880412015-02-24T16:36:05.911+01:002015-02-24T16:36:05.911+01:00Fox News devotes its entire programming to bashing...<i>Fox News devotes its entire programming to bashing Obama, but for some reason I never hear about those accusations. How do you explain that?</i><br /><br />Ah--yes. <i>Fox News</i> is nothing buy lying propaganda, but anything that they <i>don't</i> say should be dismissed as bullshit, because they would otherwise have said it.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19456870845979892472015-02-24T13:32:04.679+01:002015-02-24T13:32:04.679+01:00GJ, tell me why we don't hear about that. Fox ...GJ, tell me why we don't hear about that. Fox News devotes its entire programming to bashing Obama, but for some reason I never hear about those accusations. How do you explain that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36149328040237808202015-02-24T13:30:03.313+01:002015-02-24T13:30:03.313+01:00"In light of your comment, Mike, tell us agai..."In light of your comment, Mike, tell us again what you think about Operation Fast and Furious?"<br /><br />I doubt very seriously if Obama knew about that. He'd have to be quite a micro-manager to involve himself in every operation the ATF runs. So, your comparison to the bin Laden operation, which he very well may have been involved in, is a poor one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10271216558766962402015-02-23T18:56:01.198+01:002015-02-23T18:56:01.198+01:00"I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as ..."I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as "the murder of bin Laden." Yes, but that's still a long way from calling Obama a murderer, don't you think?"....NO....Mike it doesn't really matter what you call it...The POTUS ordered that us citizens who had not been charged with a crime to be killed not to mention at least five others who are considered collateral damage not on a battle field or during the commission of a crime but while eating a meal at a roadside cafe...He violated the constitution his oath of office and the rights of those killed by his order...I call him a murderer you call him a hero either way what he did is illegal and immoral and he should be charged along with the officers who failed to refuse an illegal order as they are bound to do by their oathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-30965929552878691212015-02-23T16:57:39.399+01:002015-02-23T16:57:39.399+01:00In light of your comment, Mike, tell us again what...In light of your comment, Mike, tell us again what you think about Operation Fast and Furious? Was the most powerful politician in the world with the top advisors on the planet mistaken, or was it done with nefarious intent?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28479594290932475272015-02-23T00:20:45.190+01:002015-02-23T00:20:45.190+01:00So let's assume it happened simply because it ...So let's assume it happened simply because it fits the agenda? Wanting evdidence is hardly and excuse mike. And what's more likely? The idea that there was a huge lie based conspiracy in invading Iraq or that, as we are seeing more and more evdidence for that there were weapons and they were moved? Everytime you say use your head mike, it seems to be as a cop out to ignore facts and evidence. For you it seems "using you're head" translates to ignore anything you don't like and rule through bias. Also notice I say seems, appears, looks like, give the appearance of. Just to be clear before you call me a liar or call bullshit or say it's wrong.MikeZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550698214789984502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23650623622415708462015-02-22T18:09:53.233+01:002015-02-22T18:09:53.233+01:00Yeah, I know... me and my requirement of evidence....Yeah, I know... me and my requirement of <i>evidence</i>. How silly of me for not being a conspiracy theorist instead.<br /><br />How about you use your head for a second? Don't you think there would be a least one Bush hater out there who would want to blow the whistle on this and go to the press with "I was ordered to fabricate intelligence on WMDs"?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13548862708018414692015-02-22T17:34:12.926+01:002015-02-22T17:34:12.926+01:00The most powerful politician in the world with the...<i>The most powerful politician in the world with the top advisors on the planet was just mistaken?</i><br /><br />There's a rather huge difference between "most powerful" and "most intelligent," and Bush is rarely accused of being too cerebral. As for "the top advisors on the planet"--you mean Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld? Presidents <i>choose</i> their advisors, Mikeb, and Bush chose some that were less stupid, but more nefarious, than he is (on that note, <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/voice-of-god-revealed-to-be-cheney-on-intercom,1851/" rel="nofollow">this <i>Onion</i> article</a> <i>still</i> cracks me up.<br /><br />I don't know if Bush really thought invading Iraq was the only way to prevent mushroom clouds over major American cities, but I don't see how the possibility that the dumbass thought precisely that can be ruled out.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34676910726674644432015-02-22T17:31:05.542+01:002015-02-22T17:31:05.542+01:00Hey SJ, how about those "mushroom clouds?&quo...Hey SJ, how about those "mushroom clouds?" And what was Bush's excuse to attack Iraq? The US Arny's official report after a 2 year search of Iraq said there were no WMD's (look it up) but you have "stories" that prove otherwise? Please share those "stories" with us. . Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20708403841698014892015-02-22T13:59:23.242+01:002015-02-22T13:59:23.242+01:00TS, Again you fall back on the "evidence"...TS, Again you fall back on the "evidence" excuse for not accepting something. Use your head, man. The most powerful politician in the world with the top advisors on the planet was just mistaken? C'mon, be honest. Do you believe that?<br /><br />My pointing out that Obama rarely received credit for "getting" bin Laden doesn't mean I liked the way it was done. It only points out the selective reporting by the Obama haters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-81551744121604006532015-02-22T04:25:50.890+01:002015-02-22T04:25:50.890+01:00MikeB: “Bush lied about Iraq's involvement in ...MikeB: “Bush lied about Iraq's involvement in the 9/11 attacks and that they had WMDs.”<br /><br />How do you know that he lied about this, as opposed to be just being wrong? <br /><br />I opposed going into Iraq even if Saddam had WMDs, but do we really have evidence that Bush/Cheney orchestrated false intelligence and managed a massive cover-up afterward?<br />TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-4281989166215711932015-02-22T02:32:32.515+01:002015-02-22T02:32:32.515+01:00In addition to what MikeZ says, there are news sto...In addition to what MikeZ says, there are news stories you can find about the chemical weapons we found in Iraq. The stories bend over backwards to point out that they predated the period Bush was talking about rather than being newly made, but they were still in the arsenals, so it's wrong to say that they didn't have the weapons.<br /><br />As for the 9/11 thing, can you show me anywhere that Bush claimed that Iraq was involved in that attack? I don't remember that assertion ever being made by the administration and would like to see it if they did make it somewhere. All I remember was statements that Saddam was cozying up to Al-Zarquawi or some other Al-Qaeda operative and a bunch of debate about whether this was because he felt solidarity with them or wanted to give tacit support so they wouldn't attack his regime.<br /><br /><br /><br />On a completely different subject, Mike, it was kind of Sandra to provide an example of what I was talking about above. Remember: when you stretch to try and make everything the other side supports be because of racism your actions come off looking like Sandra's. You never want to argue like Sandra.SJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24400303283351695462015-02-22T01:08:54.883+01:002015-02-22T01:08:54.883+01:00Mike: “I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as...Mike: “I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as "the murder of bin Laden." Yes, but that's still a long way from calling Obama a murderer, don't you think?”<br /><br />Sure. It would be if you didn’t give him credit for it. Oh, wait…<br /><br />MikeB: “I don't give Obama a pass. But I recognize the difference between Bush and Obama. Who's watch suffered the 9/11 attack? Who's had Osama bin Laden killed, not that I particularly approve of the way that was done.”<br /><br />http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-bush-cheney-legacy.html<br /><br />MikeB: “I've heard very little about Obama getting credit for killing bin Laden, especially from the conservatives and Republicans.”<br /><br />http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2015/02/police-in-washington-state-fatally.html<br />TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19576844695027400182015-02-21T22:15:38.496+01:002015-02-21T22:15:38.496+01:00Actually mike, while I'm sure you won't be...Actually mike, while I'm sure you won't believe me it's worth noting that a significant number of soldiers are now coming back with injuries from chemical weapons exposure, recently operation avarice has been coming to light and there are chemical weapons in Syria that were made in Iraq, not to mention that in 2003 ODA 574 found several bomb making houses which included equipment to disguise bombs, schematics for chemical weapons, samples of chemical agents as well as schematics, mock ups and one working model of airport X-Ray machines.MikeZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08550698214789984502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55205598668179183242015-02-21T21:44:37.058+01:002015-02-21T21:44:37.058+01:00I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as "...<i>I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as "the murder of bin Laden." Yes, but that's still a long way from calling Obama a murderer, don't you think?</i><br /><br />If the killing of bin Laden was "murder," how do you separate the person who ordered that killing (I trust you'll not claim deny that the order came from the very top) from the "murder"? If a hit man hired by me killed Bloomberg at my behest, would I not be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53374091343293680022015-02-21T20:42:51.602+01:002015-02-21T20:42:51.602+01:00"If you believe Obama is not guilty of anythi..."If you believe Obama is not guilty of anything then you must also believe Bush is innocent for they were both operating under the same AUMF2001....your HATE for Bush and the Republicans has blinded you from seeing things honestly"<br /><br />GJ, Bush lied about Iraq's involvement in the 9/11 attacks and that they had WMDs. Obama authorized the use of drones in the war on terrorist targets. You think they're the same?<br /><br />I did refer to the Seal Team 6 operation as "the murder of bin Laden." Yes, but that's still a long way from calling Obama a murderer, don't you think?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53723708690834363912015-02-21T20:35:54.193+01:002015-02-21T20:35:54.193+01:00Got it, but disagree.Got it, but disagree.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84398635398957567242015-02-21T19:19:10.809+01:002015-02-21T19:19:10.809+01:00If you don't want to be called racist SJ, stop...If you don't want to be called racist SJ, stop making racist statements. Sandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-66738192211822414332015-02-20T18:15:44.893+01:002015-02-20T18:15:44.893+01:00MikeB: "Did I call him a murderer? NO."
...MikeB: "Did I call him a murderer? NO."<br /><br />MikeB (slightly earlier in the thread): "I think it was wrong to murder bin Laden, for example. He should have been arrested and tried like any other criminal"<br /><br />TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82348086262053348122015-02-20T18:09:28.921+01:002015-02-20T18:09:28.921+01:00Mike you sound just like FOX news defending Bushes...Mike you sound just like FOX news defending Bushes crimes and declaring that anyone who dares to speak the truth shall be deemed a hater....<br /><br />If speaking the truth makes me an Obama hater in your dishonest opinion then I am OK with that.... <br /><br />"These are acts of war, in many cases ones which I disagree with, but to call the Commander-in-Chief a murderer for them is a manifestation of Obama hate.".................Obama is at war with underage American citizens abroad who have not been accused of any crime? Obama is at war with Yemen?......There is no evidence the boy was involved with anything his father who he had not seen in two years was doing.<br /><br />You got the act of war part right though in the wrong context....Obama committed acts of war against a sovereign nation Yemen multiple times and we should expect some payback from them at some point for such egregious violations of their sovereignty<br /><br />If you believe Obama is not guilty of anything then you must also believe Bush is innocent for they were both operating under the same AUMF2001....your HATE for Bush and the Republicans has blinded you from seeing things honestlyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54929350917017322482015-02-20T16:30:27.774+01:002015-02-20T16:30:27.774+01:00These are acts of war, in many cases ones which I ...<i>These are acts of war, in many cases ones which I disagree with, but to call the Commander-in-Chief a murderer for them is a manifestation of Obama hate.</i><br /><br />So anyone who called LBJ or Nixon "murderer" for all the killing in Vietnam was a "hater"? Should all of those haters who were not white be considered "racist"?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-88693947452207295382015-02-20T15:51:32.395+01:002015-02-20T15:51:32.395+01:00Sandra,
Wow. Two comments today in which you fal...Sandra,<br /><br />Wow. Two comments today in which you falsely accuse me of racism. I might be hurt...if I cared about the ravings of unstable and fallacious debaters.<br /><br />My last post already explained the use of some terms like "America hating", which you might have noticed if you were truly interested in discussing the topic rather than insulting your opponents. It's a waste of time to even bother answering your type of comment. SJnoreply@blogger.com