tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1993427536675431030..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Harlon Carter and George ZimmermanAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19443140760702581392012-05-30T12:21:32.642+02:002012-05-30T12:21:32.642+02:00Why? That's the million dollar question.
Tha...Why? That's the million dollar question.<br /><br />Thanks for you personal story.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40772606302664124612012-05-30T07:41:01.722+02:002012-05-30T07:41:01.722+02:00This may sound hard to believe, but Harlon Carter ...This may sound hard to believe, but Harlon Carter was a cousin to my husband's Mother. We used to attend annual family reunions near Granbury, TX. Several of the Carters were members of the Border Patrol. One reunion in the 70's was attended by Harlon Carter. He was, of course, the hero and center of attention due to his status with the NRA. I overheard a very animated discussion at one table with these Border Patrol members and others where they were discussing and laughing about the "wetbacks" they used to pick off as they swam across the Rio Grande. I asked them if they were serious and they verified the info again. After my husband came over and heard the same thing, we left and have never attended another Carter reunion (next one is this weekend). We were appalled, saddened, and sickened by this discussion. I always wondered if it was really true until I read the story today about Harlon killing someone when he was 17. All the pieces fell in place. We are ashamed to admit that we are related to such a despicable person who is so revered by so many people. Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91783508466821261452012-04-03T15:34:00.140+02:002012-04-03T15:34:00.140+02:00You're a sick man.You're a sick man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-4284568073629191192012-04-03T10:39:39.735+02:002012-04-03T10:39:39.735+02:00Yeah, Greg, the one that according to Anonymous th...Yeah, Greg, the one that according to Anonymous the Brady Campaing is trying to eliminate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7118057022394401182012-04-02T23:36:13.598+02:002012-04-02T23:36:13.598+02:00Oh, horrors, you mean that automatic and easily co...Oh, horrors, you mean that automatic and easily concealable handgun that shoots eight bullets at once?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19974771226152385902012-04-02T23:35:07.275+02:002012-04-02T23:35:07.275+02:00It's not a joke. I didn't want to join, s...It's not a joke. I didn't want to join, since I'm not a solid Republican and the NRA is far too tied to that party, but seeing the determination that gun control advocates still have, I signed up for the good guys.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-75127679474213807382012-04-02T23:33:04.906+02:002012-04-02T23:33:04.906+02:00My claim is that you're more radical than you ...My claim is that you're more radical than you realize. Your proposals would have effects that perhaps you haven't taken into account, and they would fail to accomplish your goals.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-44066671881540865212012-04-02T15:03:43.065+02:002012-04-02T15:03:43.065+02:00"This term, tone troll, is of questionable va..."This term, tone troll, is of questionable value."<br /><br />As are the majority of your comments.<br /><br />This:<br /><br />"A tone troll is a serious-minded person who wants only to raise the level of discussion in the dire cesspits of the New Atheist web. Or, possibly, they're a pompous blowhard who, lacking such frivolous accoutrements as an actual argument, attempts to distract attention from said deficit by complaining that their opposition uses dirty words and ought, really, to have some strict nanny figure—possibly Mary Poppins—to wash out their mouths with soap."<br /><br />is from here (http://pharyngula.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_troll)<br /><br />It makes specific reference to New Atheist web threads, but it's main points are quite applicable elsewhere. <br /><br />This comment:<br /><br />"AnonymousMar 31, 2012 12:22 PM<br />Keep posting, democommie. You do our side more good than harm with your blind vitriol.<br /><br />Once mikeb finally soaks that in, you will be banned and sorely missed from an entertainment standpoint."<br /><br />is a poster child for tone trolling. Live with the truth, it will set you free.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-68890871359327644902012-04-02T07:42:34.254+02:002012-04-02T07:42:34.254+02:00Sorry Greg, but maybe you haven't been paying ...Sorry Greg, but maybe you haven't been paying attention. I obviously focus on the misuse of guns, but I also occasionally post what I consider to be a good, albeit rare, DGU.<br /><br />I've stated many times that even if all my gun control rules could be put into effect, most of you would still have guns.<br /><br />You're the one who keeps exaggerating my position on that to make me seem more radical than I am.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14530980207561913522012-04-02T07:39:44.411+02:002012-04-02T07:39:44.411+02:00Every time I think I've had a good laugh, like...Every time I think I've had a good laugh, like what Greg said above that my blog being responsible for his finally joining the NRA, you come up with something even funnier.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55000619261250886442012-04-02T07:25:39.522+02:002012-04-02T07:25:39.522+02:00All right, I'll play. How about the 1911?All right, I'll play. How about the 1911?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-92026943203165779392012-04-02T07:24:45.470+02:002012-04-02T07:24:45.470+02:00Yes, TS, I do think you're OK with taking some...Yes, TS, I do think you're OK with taking some guns away, let's say from the maniacs like Loughner and Cho. Better screening would identify some of them before they act.<br /><br />Greg, thanks for the laugh.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-8108182993980704322012-04-02T02:19:39.464+02:002012-04-02T02:19:39.464+02:00This term, tone troll, is of questionable value. ...This term, tone troll, is of questionable value. A suggestion that the discussion should remain polite doesn't make one a tone troll. Many of us here have demonstrated that we are interested in the main subject. The fact that we also wish to have a civilized conversation about it is a point in favor of this site and many of its participants.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-38783967613533978072012-04-01T20:29:58.514+02:002012-04-01T20:29:58.514+02:00"Did you note, Democommie, that I was asking ..."Did you note, Democommie, that I was asking questions about the event, not stating a position? Why must you always jump to a conclusion? It's better to get the details and discuss the matter before deciding how to interpret something."<br /><br />You're an English teacher? Are you sure that you're not an ESL student?<br /><br />"Mikeb, your side shoots itself in the foot by never showing any willingness to move our direction. You never answer the question as to who is a good gun owner and what are good uses of guns. You never tell us where your desire for control will end. That's why we can't believe you when you claim that you don't want to take away all guns."<br /><br />Four sentences in that paragraph, all of them declaratory.<br /><br />"But consider the incident described in the article. That was in 1931. What were the rules then about what a property owner could do if people were tresspassing on his land? Was his land out in the country? Your favorite solution, 911, didn't exist. Neither did cell phones. I'm surprised that he was charged at all."<br /><br />Seven sentences in that paragraph. Two of the sentences are interrogatory, four are declaratory. The first sentence is a request, but not a question in the sense that it requires an answer.<br /><br />So, two sentences of twelve are interrogatory, about 17% (I rounded up). The bulk of the sentences are all declarations/accusations—they surer than fuck aren’t “questions”. All four of the sentences in the first paragraph ARE stating a position; they’re stating mikeb302000’s position, regardless that you aren’t qualified to take that action.<br /><br />The two sentences in the second paragraph that actually DO ask a question have answers that you can find by yourself, except that you’re too lazy to do a google, pick up a phone or take some other action that might be considered “work”. Get off your ass and educate yourself.<br /><br />“Keep posting, democommie. You do our side more good than harm with your blind vitriol.<br /><br />Once mikeb finally soaks that in, you will be banned and sorely missed from an entertainment standpoint"<br /><br />Ummm, is there a point in there somewhere? One that relates to the post? Or are you just going to exercise your other GODGIVEN RIGHT (the first being to haz all teh gunz you can get AND carry them, everywhere), whining endlessly like the tonetrollsockpuppet that you are?democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16480216561737858272012-04-01T20:25:14.149+02:002012-04-01T20:25:14.149+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11437610402365716702012-03-31T22:41:52.631+02:002012-03-31T22:41:52.631+02:00Don't need to verify it since it is as a tenab...Don't need to verify it since it is as a tenable link as Zimmerman is to a shooting that occurred 60 years before he was born.<br /><br />BTW, did you verify Zimmerman is an NRA member?FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24184939210754553422012-03-31T21:22:58.937+02:002012-03-31T21:22:58.937+02:00Keep posting, democommie. You do our side more goo...Keep posting, democommie. You do our side more good than harm with your blind vitriol.<br /><br />Once mikeb finally soaks that in, you will be banned and sorely missed from an entertainment standpoint.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87709172241570620642012-03-31T21:09:02.925+02:002012-03-31T21:09:02.925+02:00Did you note, Democommie, that I was asking questi...Did you note, Democommie, that I was asking questions about the event, not stating a position? Why must you always jump to a conclusion? It's better to get the details and discuss the matter before deciding how to interpret something.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34339975586098454292012-03-31T20:24:13.203+02:002012-03-31T20:24:13.203+02:00That filthy mexican bandito, pollutin' a good ...That filthy mexican bandito, pollutin' a good ol' MurKKKin swimmin hole. I'm only surprised that Carter didn't shoot all three of them--in the back.<br /><br />That Greg Camp and other commenters can not only excuse what was clearly a case of manslaughter under any state's laws but, also, continue to mis-represent mikeb302000's position on gun ownership would surprise me I didn't know, from previous threads, that they will do or so anything to avoid responsibility for criminal acts while exercising their GODGIVEN GUNZ RIGHTZ!!<br /><br />FatWhiteMan:<br /><br />"MikeB lives in Italy. Mussolini was Italian. Mussolini and Hitler had circle jerks together."<br /><br />And mikeb302000's membership in the Nazi or Fascist party has been verified? Wait, there's more, mikeb302000's CHAIRMANSHIP of one or both of those organizations has been verified?democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36097556370574539162012-03-31T19:39:13.638+02:002012-03-31T19:39:13.638+02:00I just recently joined the NRA, thanks to all the ...I just recently joined the NRA, thanks to all the comments here. I hadn't joined in the past because the organization is too tied in with one political party. I'd rather see the NRA reaching out more to Democrats and others on the left. There are leftwing gun owners--to some degree, I'm one of them--and gun rights in general will be better defended by appealing across the spectrum. That being said, the job that the NRA does is good work.<br /><br />To Wayne La Pierre, if you read here, Mikeb, Democommie, et al. are responsible for my membership.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46156116723432262012012-03-31T15:32:04.711+02:002012-03-31T15:32:04.711+02:00Mikeb, your side shoots itself in the foot by neve...Mikeb, your side shoots itself in the foot by never showing any willingness to move our direction. You never answer the question as to who is a good gun owner and what are good uses of guns. You never tell us where your desire for control will end. That's why we can't believe you when you claim that you don't want to take away all guns.<br /><br />But consider the incident described in the article. That was in 1931. What were the rules then about what a property owner could do if people were tresspassing on his land? Was his land out in the country? Your favorite solution, 911, didn't exist. Neither did cell phones. I'm surprised that he was charged at all.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32606846925022759382012-03-31T15:30:02.086+02:002012-03-31T15:30:02.086+02:00"The sick connection between the former NRA l...<i>"The sick connection between the former NRA leader and George Zimmerman..."</i><br /><br />The WHAT?<br /><br />OMG, under that theory, MikeB is a MONSTER!<br /><br />MikeB lives in Italy. Mussolini was Italian. Mussolini and Hitler had circle jerks together. <br /><br />"The sick connection between the former Nazi leader and MikeB..."FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7749126057453969222012-03-31T15:15:56.912+02:002012-03-31T15:15:56.912+02:00Mikeb, name the make and model of ANY firearm that...Mikeb, name the make and model of ANY firearm that the Brady Campaign HAS NOT advocated the banning of. If you accept this challenge, I will be back to prove you wrong, using nothing but their own words.<br /><br />checkmateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47922300907792324922012-03-31T08:47:27.618+02:002012-03-31T08:47:27.618+02:00Mike: "Even around here, how many times do ou...Mike: "Even around here, how many times do our antagonists claim that we want to take ALL the guns away?"<br /><br />Do you think we are ok with you taking ANY guns away?<br /><br />Mike: "Is it any wonder that they're membership often disagrees with the party line, not to mention how small it is compared to the number gun owners at large."<br /><br />Why do you suppose they keep paying their dues?TSnoreply@blogger.com