tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post23930206233078188..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Go Jump in the LakeAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-30424494374019594202009-10-11T06:05:41.751+02:002009-10-11T06:05:41.751+02:00b. thanks for an honest description of yourself. ...b. thanks for an honest description of yourself. I respect that.<br /><br /><i>"More like the 3 percenters' annoying little brother,"</i>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64457303652854939412009-10-10T21:58:27.284+02:002009-10-10T21:58:27.284+02:00I was being facetious about the "wound"-...I was being facetious about the "wound"--you are obviously under no obligation to keep track of your various commenters' philosophies and attitudes.<br><br><i>Do you refer to yourself as a 3 percenter?</i><br><br>More like the 3 percenters' annoying little brother, who follows them around, desperately <i>wanting</i> to be a part of it. I often flatter myself with the idea that I'm one of them, but when I'm honest with myself, I admit that I'm a wannabe. And yes, I have a couple times posted comments here to the effect that I'm not planning to be a victim. Because I'm, at the moment, in the mood to be brutally honest with myself, I'll admit that the reason for that is that even if it <i>does</i> come down to patriots fighting the jack-booted-thugs and the gov's jack-booted-Blackwater-type-"Hessians," the JBTs and pals will probably simply ignore me--because they can afford to. Who knows, though, maybe I'll surprise them (and myself).<br><br><i>You actually think you and your little hoard of ammo would be able to fight off a squad of Blackwater-type commandos?<br /><br />No, you know you wouldn't be able to, hence the second part of the description, grandiose victimism.</i><br><br>You are, of course, free to wager on whichever side you want. I'd recommend not betting the kids' college money on Blackwater, though.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-29466405599297364492009-10-10T21:37:46.874+02:002009-10-10T21:37:46.874+02:00Yes, I knew that. Sorry for the wound. Do you ref...Yes, I knew that. Sorry for the wound. Do you refer to yourself as a 3 percenter? You know what I call it right, grandiose victimism? But you already told me you don't plan on being the victim. That was you, wasn't it? <br /><br />How does that work for you guys then? You actually think you and your little hoard of ammo would be able to fight off a squad of Blackwater-type commandos?<br /><br />No, you know you wouldn't be able to, hence the second part of the description, grandiose victimism. The first part is covered by the mere fact that we're having this conversation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-48658538380678040212009-10-10T19:30:13.190+02:002009-10-10T19:30:13.190+02:00Which one do you align with, beowulf?Mikeb, I thou...<i>Which one do you align with, beowulf?</i><br><br>Mikeb, I thought we knew each other--you wound me. I am a gazillion percent with Mr. Vanderboegh, and his recognition of the clear fact that we don't need friends--just plenty of ammo, and a clear line of sight to our enemies.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7915953899304783692009-10-10T19:18:56.123+02:002009-10-10T19:18:56.123+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45145501921193095282009-10-10T19:11:50.890+02:002009-10-10T19:11:50.890+02:00About the guns, Clayton is right. Mike V. and his ...About the guns, Clayton is right. Mike V. and his friends are just being themselves.<br /><br />Which one do you align with, beowulf?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57285056691094545752009-10-10T18:18:37.475+02:002009-10-10T18:18:37.475+02:00By the way, Mikeb, about your "reasonable gun...By the way, Mikeb, about your "<a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/10/go-jump-in-lake.html?showComment=1254465049407#c8981526443712429969" rel="nofollow">reasonable gun people</a>" looking down their oh-so-elegant noses at the people who peacefully carried firearms to the town hall meetings--I suppose you would consider <a href="http://www.shotgunnews.com/cramer/" rel="nofollow">Clayton Cramer</a> (of the <a href="http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html" rel="nofollow">Gun Self-Defense Blog</a>) to be among them, aside from his unfortunate (and gratuitous) foray into homophobia.<br><br>I, on the other hand, vastly prefer <a href="http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/clayton-cramer-tries-to-whistle-past.html" rel="nofollow">Mr. Vanderboegh's response</a>--which should surprise no one.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45804416697516863842009-10-03T22:20:21.795+02:002009-10-03T22:20:21.795+02:00Says Mikeb:They made you look like a bunch of nuts...Says Mikeb:<br><br><i>They made you look like a bunch of nuts. Only the most extreme pro-gun people thought otherwise. Refer to Sebastian and Say Uncle and many other reasonable gun people.</i><br><br>Sebastian and Say Uncle are big on "marketing" and "packaging" gun rights, and trying to cultivate a good image. That's fine, if you're into <i>asking</i> for one's fundamental human rights. If, on the other hand, you're the sort who will exercise your fundamental human rights, and tell people who don't like it that they're welcome to try to stop you, but you suggest they max out their life insurance policy first, you don't really care about what the forcible citizen disarmament advocates think of you.<br><br>I'll give you three guesses as to which category I fall into. If that makes me "unreasonable," so be it--I'm not interested in trying to negotiate.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21977949794962305492009-10-03T21:32:24.528+02:002009-10-03T21:32:24.528+02:00Acceptance of an apology does not require that I f...Acceptance of an apology does not require that I forget the original offense.<br><br>Since that apology, I've seen your continued prissy disapproval of what you take as personal attacks from gun rights advocates, and your giggling support of mud-fer-brains' vituperative vitriol (<i>misspelled</i> vituperative vitriol), so spare me the martyred "hurt" act over an occasional reminder of your earlier dishonor.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-69005834011949233412009-10-03T21:15:33.816+02:002009-10-03T21:15:33.816+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-39109905308061478802009-10-03T21:04:15.984+02:002009-10-03T21:04:15.984+02:00beowulf, I apologized for that, you said you accep...beowulf, I apologized for that, you said you accepted it.<br /><br />Is this what you call accepting an apology?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87875082631870858392009-10-03T18:06:07.187+02:002009-10-03T18:06:07.187+02:00The only ones that think it 'backfired' ar...<i>The only ones that think it 'backfired' are the nuts on the other side.</i><br><br>Exactly, Thirdpower.<br><br>If attending a political protest rally armed (with a scary so-called "assault weapon," no less) is so overwhelmingly seen as "crazy," I wonder why <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI" rel="nofollow">MSNBC felt the need to grossly distort reality</a>, and paint the protesters as "racist," in order to bolster the idea that people who show up armed at political protests are in the wrong.<br><br>The distortion, of course, is that MSNBC deliberately edited the footage to hide the fact that the supposed purveyor of "white rage" <i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GIUeItYh1U" rel="nofollow">is himself black</a></i> (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scE-VrpnU9M" rel="nofollow">More here</a>).<br><br>Then again, Mikeb, we're no strangers to <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-york-times-on-bulls-eye.html?showComment=1254424782754#c1142674168189033023" rel="nofollow">false accusations of racism around here</a>, are we? Perhaps MSNBC isn't guilty of deliberate distortion--perhaps it's merely the TV equivalent of "<a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-york-times-on-bulls-eye.html?showComment=1254464651024#c8091214886901263743" rel="nofollow">writing too fast</a>," eh, Mikeb?beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63055431098757301962009-10-02T19:15:22.016+02:002009-10-02T19:15:22.016+02:00"Refer to Sebastian and Say Uncle and many ot..."Refer to Sebastian and Say Uncle and many other reasonable gun people."<br /><br />But by your definitions they're not 'reasonable' because they support the expansion of firearm rights. <br /><br />The only ones that think it 'backfired' are the nuts on the other side.Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45341250319839767222009-10-02T08:32:33.091+02:002009-10-02T08:32:33.091+02:00FatWhiteMan, Thanks for injecting a bit of humor i...FatWhiteMan, Thanks for injecting a bit of humor into the discussion, which too often gets too heavy.<br /><br />Your response to mud_rake's comment was hilarious..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89815264437124299692009-10-02T08:30:49.407+02:002009-10-02T08:30:49.407+02:00A few guys asked, "How did the armed proteste...A few guys asked, <i>"How did the armed protesters backfire on you?"</i> <br /><br />They made you look like a bunch of nuts. Only the most extreme pro-gun people thought otherwise. Refer to Sebastian and Say Uncle and many other reasonable gun people.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21182045455507686752009-10-02T05:50:03.437+02:002009-10-02T05:50:03.437+02:00"I'm not seeing any anger from the Libera..."I'm not seeing any anger from the Liberals on the idea of the 2nd Amendment being incorporated."<br /><br />You don't get out much, do you?kavemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46114124608226526282009-10-02T04:05:42.755+02:002009-10-02T04:05:42.755+02:00I'm not seeing any anger from the Liberals on ...I'm not seeing any anger from the Liberals on the idea of the 2nd Amendment being incorporated. I'm wondering if they plan to pass "reasonable restrictions" for the entire USA that will fall under the "regulated" portion of the 2nd Amendment once incorporation passes? Perhaps MAIG will be part of that effort?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22800633935107455562009-10-02T03:28:19.634+02:002009-10-02T03:28:19.634+02:00I'm still waiting for that evidence Mikeb.What...<i>I'm still waiting for that evidence Mikeb.</i><br><br>What you have to understand, TomB, is that Mikeb isn't one to limit himself to assertions, insinuations, and accusations for which he can present evidence. He prefers to just "spray fire from the hip" (to borrow a ridiculous gun-grabber phase), and see what sticks (pretty much nothing, so far).<br><br>What <i>really</i> pisses him off is that his mudslinging lacks the power to send people to prison, because, apparently, the U.S. justice system isn't Italian enough for him.<br><br>Care to comment on that assessment, Mikeb?beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89962499735757191662009-10-02T03:09:31.616+02:002009-10-02T03:09:31.616+02:00I'm still waiting for that evidence Mikeb.I'm still waiting for that evidence Mikeb.TomBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-8732929380809736532009-10-02T00:59:14.363+02:002009-10-02T00:59:14.363+02:00Says Mikeb:All those reports of mayors abandoning ...Says Mikeb:<br><br><i>All those reports of mayors abandoning the cause and all those other reports about mayors who were criminals themselves, were what, exaggerations I suppose?</i><br><br>What "exaggerations" would those be, Mikeb? Have you seen inflated claims of the number of mayors who jumped ship, mayors who were falsely claimed by MAIG, or MAIG members who are in legal trouble? If so, present them. I'll wait.<br><br><i>I'm sure they were true </i>[which would mean they <b>aren't</b> "exaggerations"]<i>, it's just the way they were presented you'd have thought the whole operation was about to fold.</i><br><br>Perhaps <i>you</i>'d "have thought" that, but I don't remember seeing anyone claim--or even imply--that. Our point was to illustrate the moral bankruptcy and pathological dishonesty of that nest of vipers.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41093993538073646292009-10-01T19:35:56.630+02:002009-10-01T19:35:56.630+02:00To mud rake...
MikeB posts about gun control beca...To mud rake...<br /><br />MikeB posts about gun control because it's the only thing that "gets butts in the seats" in front of his blog.<br /><br />He wants people to come visit his forum, that's understandable. But when he posts about some music video or other nonsense, noone leaves a comment and I surmise noone even bothers to watch the video to begin with.<br /><br />Gun control and the 2A is and always will be a hot button issue for people on both sides.<br /><br />MikeB is smart enough to realize that this is the only way he can get people to come and visit.<br /><br />What he doesn't realize is that by choosing to blog about a subject he knows nothing about, he inevitabally puts some serious nonsense in print for the whole world to see. MikeB does more to help the pro-freedom crowd than he does to hurt it.<br /><br />Every pro-2A commenter on this site can distinguish an M1 from an M1A from a quarter-mile distance and yet MikeB doesn't even know what the M1 or M1A is. <br /><br />MikeB is a great supporter for our cause, not by his passions which I believe are genuine; but by his actions of posting stuff so easily debunked by anyone with a computer and the skill to spell "google."<br /><br />Even he, deep down, knows I am right.kavemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14927386627021932632009-10-01T18:59:56.859+02:002009-10-01T18:59:56.859+02:00How has it 'backfired' MikeB? MAIG's ...How has it 'backfired' MikeB? MAIG's numbers are down from what they were originally claiming. They included people who weren't associated plus people who were no longer mayors of the listed cities and hadn't been for some time. <br /><br />The NRA also had nothing to do w/ the townhall protests. If you have some evidence to the contrary, why don't you present it? <br /><br />Is MudRake's comments considered by you to be enhancing the debate? That's what your 'comment policy' stated. Or are attacks by one side OK but not the other. <br /><br />I'm sure you'll elaborate.Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-31149457814574457082009-10-01T18:53:20.457+02:002009-10-01T18:53:20.457+02:00Once the 2A is incorporated to state and local lev...Once the 2A is incorporated to state and local levels, MAIG will be destroyed.kavemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37999330322888273202009-10-01T18:52:07.241+02:002009-10-01T18:52:07.241+02:00Mike- you and I know, dep in our hearts, that the ...<i>Mike- you and I know, dep in our hearts, that the radical right [gun lobby] is truly an anti-American knot of mindless zealots who hate America and would, actually, like to see it brought down to an anarchistic state.</i><br><br>Well, Mikeb, is mud_rake right? Is that what you know, "dep in [y]our heart"? Sounds to me as if mud_rake has no argument beyond childish attempts at insults. Interesting choice of folks with whom to associate, Mike.<br><br>Good thing the vast majority of commenters here are grownups, to help dilute the presence of angry children like muddy.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10018333747052412839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-33187480569148651212009-10-01T18:50:09.483+02:002009-10-01T18:50:09.483+02:00MikeB, forgive me if this violates your commenting...MikeB, forgive me if this violates your commenting policy but Mud_Rake's comment is about the biggest pile of shit I have seen posted on here yet. In fact, we may all be dumber now for just having read it.<br /><br />I just read it again.<br /><br />I wouldn't even know where to begin addressing his nonsense. If I try to break it up and respond line-by-line I'll have an I.Q. lower than Forest Gump when I'm through.<br /><br />I just read it a third time and I am now as dumb as a bleeding heart liberal. <br /><br />One mor tim and i wont evn bee abwul to writ nuthinFatWhiteManhttp://fatwhiteman.comnoreply@blogger.com