tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post2466135306422839412..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Oregon Recall FailsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52393228435517917452015-09-23T19:59:27.586+02:002015-09-23T19:59:27.586+02:00Right SS, the will of the people represented by 18...Right SS, the will of the people represented by 18% of the voters. So a majority vote put them in office, and a minority vote put them out of office, that's democracy? Only in your delusional mind. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84846753935995424502015-09-18T01:45:37.386+02:002015-09-18T01:45:37.386+02:00Your response is not true, as usual. You always re...Your response is not true, as usual. You always reply with a comparison YOU think applies, when it has nothing to do with the point made. Just more proof of your dishonesty, and thanks for that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-70291057933448968462015-09-16T07:10:46.340+02:002015-09-16T07:10:46.340+02:00Got it, thanks.Got it, thanks.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64382732893287595262015-09-16T06:23:23.835+02:002015-09-16T06:23:23.835+02:00Darrell Issa wanted to be the governor of Californ...Darrell Issa wanted to be the governor of California. He was the leader of the effort to recall Gray Davis.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34051591251669469282015-09-15T22:13:42.436+02:002015-09-15T22:13:42.436+02:00Well, the gun control lobby has recently fallen in...Well, the gun control lobby has recently fallen in love of referendums. How is that any different than a recall? Both are ways to correct politicians not voting the wishes of the people.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-31029791866740652342015-09-15T19:23:23.373+02:002015-09-15T19:23:23.373+02:00It's interesting to know gun loons think recal...It's interesting to know gun loons think recalls are the way to majority representation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42935719849221606562015-09-15T19:09:41.375+02:002015-09-15T19:09:41.375+02:00Flying Junior: "And thank the goddess that Is...Flying Junior: "And thank the goddess that Issa was sent home crying."<br /><br />???<br /><br />Isn't he still in office?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21612809642588055582015-09-15T19:08:56.979+02:002015-09-15T19:08:56.979+02:00It's a tool that is there for the people to us...It's a tool that is there for the people to use as they see fit. I don't know how you can determine the intent of thousands and thousands of people anyway. I am glad to see it used this way because it sends a clear message. Had the people just waited until the next general election, Mike, being the optimist that he is, would say "well, that was for other reasons". Its pretty hard to say that as is.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-571106126778874012015-09-15T19:04:50.483+02:002015-09-15T19:04:50.483+02:00Well, there were three in Colorado (one fell on he...Well, there were three in Colorado (one fell on her own sword), and like I said, exactly zero pro gun legislators have been recalled for being pro gun anywhere in the country. So the score is 3-0. I guess you're a "glass is half-full" kind of guy in that your rebuttal is "at least the score isn't 35-0". Ok, then. Good for you to look on the bright side, though I don't why you say 35, because that's the total number of seats including Republicans who opposed the gun control measures. The Colorado state senate is now in majority control of the Republicans, so that's a big deal too. TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85291685849502501092015-09-15T16:48:09.912+02:002015-09-15T16:48:09.912+02:00"Colorado was 2 out of 35. Oregon is zero aft..."Colorado was 2 out of 35. Oregon is zero after several attempts."<br /><br /> Well Mike, in 2012, the Democrats held a five seat majority in the Colorado Senate and in just three years it has turned into a one seat majority for the Republicans. It will be interesting to see what happens in '16. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87787573132465598242015-09-15T16:37:29.252+02:002015-09-15T16:37:29.252+02:00Oh, and let's not forget the offensive laws ar...Oh, and let's not forget the offensive laws are still in place in both states.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27695716642428738132015-09-15T16:36:50.114+02:002015-09-15T16:36:50.114+02:00C'mon, you guys are really stretching. Colora...C'mon, you guys are really stretching. Colorado was 2 out of 35. Oregon is zero after several attempts. Where's your big numbers and majorities?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34362798934322914722015-09-15T07:03:20.412+02:002015-09-15T07:03:20.412+02:00The state senators who chose to sacrifice their ow...The state senators who chose to sacrifice their own careers have been cut down, but their accomplishments still stand as the law of Colorado.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80282217133506114172015-09-14T23:06:54.228+02:002015-09-14T23:06:54.228+02:00The gun guys, particularly the extremist Oregon Fi...The gun guys, particularly the extremist Oregon Firearms Federation who has bankrolled the recall attempts, have been the laughing stock of the community with this. All four of their recall attempts failed miserably. The first two fizzled. Both of the other two had complaints lodged against them for racketeering. One of those ended when the legislator changed positions (and they weren't getting enough signatures anyhow), and the final one died when the Secretary of State detemined that a *fifth* of the petition signatures (2000 out of 10,000) were either repeats or not validated as registered voters in the legislator's district. See my blog post, here: http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2015/09/all-four-vengeful-recall-efforts-by-pro.htmlBaldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42996992881194090642015-09-14T20:36:08.149+02:002015-09-14T20:36:08.149+02:00TS,
That's because it's not rational to r...TS,<br /><br />That's because it's not rational to recall a politician based on political differences. The original intent of at least California's law was to recall an incompetent or corrupt official. Not to reverse elections. I'm not going to complain about Gray Davis being replaced by Schwarzeneggar. At lease he did repeal the car tax. And thank the goddess that Issa was sent home crying.<br /><br />I imagine that the main reason that Governor Walker's recall failed was because it was purely political. However, in his case, I was willing to make an exception.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45437983652167048532015-09-14T08:12:22.401+02:002015-09-14T08:12:22.401+02:00Very true TS. One has but to look at Colorado to s...Very true TS. One has but to look at Colorado to see the positive impact. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62023072473486179662015-09-13T21:45:56.042+02:002015-09-13T21:45:56.042+02:00Not sure what's "reckless" about it....Not sure what's "reckless" about it. No ground was lost in the attempt. I don't think you seem to get that if gun rights supporters attempt to recall 100 politicians and even if only one succeeds- that's a win. How many politicians have been recalled for supporting gun rights? Zero.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.com