tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post2601706404214186375..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: The Johns Hopkins StudyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28949770136330050952009-07-13T19:02:39.467+02:002009-07-13T19:02:39.467+02:00Oh come on Bob, there you go scaring MikeB with FA...Oh come on Bob, there you go scaring MikeB with FACTS again.<br /><br />He wants more gun control because guns and icky and he mistrusts his fellow citizens. It has never had a damn thing to do with "public safety."Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-69619700445251183812009-07-13T18:44:31.604+02:002009-07-13T18:44:31.604+02:00Posted comment a day and a half ago...no response ...Posted comment a day and a half ago...no response MikeB.<br /><br />Why not? <br /><br />Why not answer the question?Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-49071803578119146542009-07-11T17:47:53.114+02:002009-07-11T17:47:53.114+02:00MikeB,
California is a hard to buy gun state righ...MikeB,<br /><br />California is a hard to buy gun state right?<br /><br />And it is <b>SECOND</b> to Texas --an easy to buy state-- in the number of firearms trafficked to Mexico.<br /><br />Changing the laws to make it more difficult to buy firearms isn't working, hasn't working. <br /><br />Making all the states keep laws like California isn't doing something new...it is doing the same stupid stuff over and over again.<br /><br />California crime rates compared to Texas....<br />Calif. Violent<br />crime- 532.5 (Tx 516.3), Murder-6.8 (Tx 5.9), Forcible<br />rape- 25.3 (Tx 35.6), Robbery-194.7 (158.5)<br /><br />In only one category does the Brady Campaign "A" Rated state <b>have less violent crime than TEXAS</b><br /><br />So, how does implementing California style laws work to reduce violent CRIME???Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32262938629794298912009-07-11T12:43:34.507+02:002009-07-11T12:43:34.507+02:00Bob said, "You keep saying you want to do thi...Bob said, <i>"You keep saying you want to do things differently but you never say exactly what you want to do differently."</i><br /><br />I had already said in the same thread, <i>"We're talking about making it more difficult to buy guns in the easy gun states so they cannot be trafficked to the hard gun states. That's not doing the same thing again. That's doing something for the first time which you don't want done. That's making sensible gun laws that apply nation-wide."</i>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91133554254731980632009-07-11T12:35:19.334+02:002009-07-11T12:35:19.334+02:00MikeB,
How about answering the question?
IF THE ...MikeB,<br /><br />How about answering the question?<br /><br /><b>IF THE LAWS IN CALIFORNIA AREN"T ENOUGH OF AN INCONVENIENCE TO STOP GUN TRAFFICKING....WHAT WILL BE?????</b>Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65174020491034542442009-07-10T19:43:03.324+02:002009-07-10T19:43:03.324+02:00So you're going to make it 'harder' in...So you're going to make it 'harder' in states like VA where there's less of a problem because people in places like Camden, NJ can't control themselves?<br /><br />That makes sense.Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65906438501725510612009-07-10T12:55:07.557+02:002009-07-10T12:55:07.557+02:00MikeB,
You keep saying you want to do things diff...MikeB,<br /><br />You keep saying you want to do things differently but you never say exactly what you want to do differently.<br /><br /><i>We're talking about making it more difficult to buy guns in the easy gun states so they cannot be trafficked to the hard gun states.</i><br /><br />Harder than going through a background check? how are you goin to do that?<br /><br />How are you going make it harder for a straw purchase to take place?<br /><br />How about stop bleating about how many gun deaths there are for while and start talking about HOW you are going do this things?<br /><br />California which has nearly every Brady Campaign endorsed law was 2nd behind Texas in guns trafficked to Mexico. <br /><br /><b>IF THE LAWS IN CALIFORNIA AREN"T ENOUGH OF AN INCONVENIENCE TO STOP GUN TRAFFICKING....WHAT WILL BE????? </b>Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63569558716602302352009-07-10T08:16:40.853+02:002009-07-10T08:16:40.853+02:00Thirdpower said, "BTW, transporting firearms ...Thirdpower said, <i>"BTW, transporting firearms over state lines is ALREADY a Federal crime.<br /><br />Do it again, only HARDER."</i> <br /><br />You and some of the others keep saying that, but as usual, it's just a smoke screen and a diversion. Nobody's talking about doing anything again. We're talking about making it more difficult to buy guns in the easy gun states so they cannot be trafficked to the hard gun states. That's not doing the same thing again. That's doing something for the first time which you don't want done. That's making sensible gun laws that apply nation-wide.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25846804874245860262009-07-09T16:02:18.481+02:002009-07-09T16:02:18.481+02:00I just finished reading a comment on the Joyce stu...I just finished reading a comment on the Joyce study by <a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/07/08/more-on-that-joyce-study/" rel="nofollow">Sebastian of SnowflakesInHell</a> so I'll just steal his remarks and repost them here:<br /><br />"Funny because, if you look at the average violent crime rate for the cities mentioned that have the least gun trafficking, it’s 1083 per 100,000. If you look at the cities mentioned that have the most gun trafficking, it’s 884 per 100,000. So it would seem if your city has more gun trafficking, it’s actually safer."FatWhiteManhttp://www.fatwhiteman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45700649688116630132009-07-09T14:07:32.118+02:002009-07-09T14:07:32.118+02:00BTW, transporting firearms over state lines is ALR...BTW, transporting firearms over state lines is ALREADY a Federal crime. <br /><br />Do it again, only HARDER. <br /><br />They once again used 'trace data' to make their claims. <br /><br />Oh, right. You believe that the NRA forced the BATFE to include their disclaimer that Trace Data alone cannot be used for statistical analysis. <br /><br />Did the NRA also force the CRS to write the study saying the same thing?Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58962173145667279742009-07-09T13:58:13.010+02:002009-07-09T13:58:13.010+02:00"if you look at the average violent crime rat..."if you look at the average violent crime rate for the cities mentioned that have the least gun trafficking, it’s 1083 per 100,000. If you look at the cities mentioned that have the most gun trafficking, it’s 884 per 100,000. So it would seem if your city has more gun trafficking, it’s actually safer."<br /><br />So gun control has done NOTHING to reduce actual crime. <br /><br />"Where gun control laws are in effect, in-state trafficking is very low, proving the laws are effective."<br /><br />No, actually it doesn't. Take a look at Illinois for example.<br /><br />This 'cries out' to the desperation of the gun control movement in that they have to continue to selectively cite numbers to make their case. <br /><br />Note that neither MikeB nor skyewriter have been able to dispute my numbers (actually from WISQARS) proving Hemenway doctored his study. Nor does MikeB question ANY of the numbers like he does the FBI UCR. <br /><br />Hmmm...Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.com