tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post2877799465898819287..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Another Victory for the Gun LobbyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46639554188861499592011-03-04T13:36:42.322+01:002011-03-04T13:36:42.322+01:00So how do you you feel about your favorite thugs n...So how do you you feel about your favorite <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/03/eveningnews/main20039031.shtml?tag=contentBody;featuredPost-PE" rel="nofollow">thugs <i>now</i></a>, eh?<br /><br /><i>Senior agents including Dodson told CBS News they confronted their supervisors over and over.<br /><br />Their answer, according to Dodson, was, "If you're going to make an omelette, you've got to break some eggs."<br /><br />There was so much opposition to the gun walking, that an ATF supervisor issued an e-mail noting a "schism" among the agents. "Whether you care or not people of rank and authority at HQ are paying close attention to this case...we are doing what they envisioned.... If you don't think this is fun you're in the wrong line of work... Maybe the Maricopa County jail is hiring detention officers and you can get $30,000 ... to serve lunch to inmates..."</i><br /><br />Helping arm the drug syndicates is supposed to be <i>fun</i>, and murdered Mexicans are "broken eggs."<br /><br />Those are your fucking heroes.<br /><br />I do admit I owe the <i>actual</i> heroes here--the whistleblowers like Agent Dodson, who have done more to neuter the BATFE beast than anyone in history.<br /><br />And Mike Vanderoegh and David Codrea made it happen. True American heroes.Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82335212024871017002011-02-27T19:04:29.550+01:002011-02-27T19:04:29.550+01:00By the way, whom do you think you're kidding w...By the way, whom do you think you're kidding with your attempt to portray Traver as the honest piano player in the whorehouse?<br /><br /><i>Besides, let's say you're right. Let's say the entire organization os out of control. Isn't that a good reason to nominate Travers as their boss.</i><br /><br />He's the sleazy, lying motherfucker who <a href="http://www.nbcchicago.com/on-air/as-seen-on/Warzone_Weapons_Assault_City_Streets_Chicago.html" rel="nofollow">tried to claim</a> that the expiration of the "assault weapons" ban flooded the streets of Chicago with <i>fully-automatic</i> AK-47s. What <i>possible</i> reason could there be to expect <i>him</i> to clean up the sewer that is the BATFE?<br /><br />I hope his cancer comes back, and kills him, after a few years of utter agony.Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-48798817495238290482011-02-27T13:28:06.641+01:002011-02-27T13:28:06.641+01:00The CBS story was the tip of the iceberg. Wait un...The CBS story was the tip of the iceberg. Wait until we see how high in the DoJ this went. Holder-high? Don't bet against it.<br /><br />Wait until we start hearing from former Mexico attache Darren Gil, who was forced into early retirement late last year, because he objected to doing this shit without telling the Mexicans. Wait until we find out how high in State Department <i>that</i> was approved. Hillary-high? Don't bet against it.<br /><br />Wait until it's established that not only did the BATFE goons sanction the straw sales, when gun shops wanted to turn them down, but even paid at least one dealer to do it, with a confidential informer-type arrangement.<br /><br />Codrea and <a href="http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">the man you love to hate</a> are "spearheading" something, alright--spearheading the vast improvement of the U.S., through the bitch-slap (to end all bitch-slaps) of the BATFE, and very possibly much more of this gangster government administration than that.<br /><br />A thing of beauty.Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26592609035410304272011-02-27T11:47:01.417+01:002011-02-27T11:47:01.417+01:00I think you gun guys, especially some of the bigge...I think you gun guys, especially some of the bigger gun bloggers loke Codrea are spearheading a campaign to harm the ATF. One of their guys got killed, they're in the shit up to their necks, not becasue they facilitated anything but because that's how you fight crime by getting right down there in the shit.<br /><br />Besides, let's say you're right. Let's say the entire organization os out of control. Isn't that a good reason to nominate Travers as their boss.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35235011472325090442011-02-25T06:22:04.111+01:002011-02-25T06:22:04.111+01:00@BantheNRA, so the ATF deliberately allowed guns t...@BantheNRA, so the ATF deliberately allowed guns to "walk," and you claim the NRA is behind it.<br /><br />Was the NRA on the grassy knoll, too? Maybe they were the ones really behind 9/11?<br /><br />The facts tell the truth, the BATFE has screwed up, <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7357550n&tag=mg;mostpopvideo" rel="nofollow">not just letting guns "walk,"</a> but throughout their history. These armed tax collecting thugs need to be disbanded.<br /><br />...Orygunner...Orygunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829265216321634830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-44900230423530143202011-02-24T20:05:01.654+01:002011-02-24T20:05:01.654+01:00Project Gunwalker.....HAHAHAHAHAHA
That's jus...Project Gunwalker.....HAHAHAHAHAHA<br /><br />That's just an NRA plot to try to move the spotlight off of their buddies who are selling their military grade weapons on a cash basis in the SW, and onto undercover agents doing what undercover agents do.<br /><br />Guntubbies, it's time to hang up the guns and get a life. Then you might get laid for once.BantheNRAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55616247262279232832011-02-24T13:43:42.090+01:002011-02-24T13:43:42.090+01:00That's bullshit, Zorroy. What they did, howeve...<i>That's bullshit, Zorroy. What they did, however distasteful to your delicate sensitivities, is just what undercover cops do all the time.</i><br /><br />Undercover cops <i>buy</i> contraband in order to make a case. Are you claiming that they actually facilitate the illegal commerce from the <i>supply</i> end, and then let the stuff get away from them? <br /><br /><i>Don't you watch TV, man?</i><br /><br />Not much, and I <i>certainly</i> don't let cop shows inform my understanding of how the real world works. I, keep in mind, am not the guy who decided torture was OK, <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2010/09/spc-alyssa-peterson.html" rel="nofollow">based on an episode of "24."</a>Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-33837990174070431962011-02-24T13:26:14.140+01:002011-02-24T13:26:14.140+01:00That's bullshit, Zorroy. What they did, howev...That's bullshit, Zorroy. What they did, however distasteful to your delicate sensitivities, is just what undercover cops do all the time. Don't you watch TV, man?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-2922769125616187252011-02-24T05:29:55.364+01:002011-02-24T05:29:55.364+01:00By the way, while we're talking about the BATF...By the way, while we're talking about the BATFE, and their supposed efforts to attenuate "gun violence" in Mexico, what do you <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7357550n&tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea;cbsnewsMainColumnArea.1" rel="nofollow">think of <i>this</i></a>?<br /><br />From <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/main20035609.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1" rel="nofollow">the text</a>:<br /><br /><i>In late 2009, ATF was alerted to suspicious buys at seven gun shops in the Phoenix area. Suspicious because the buyers paid cash, sometimes brought in paper bags. And they purchased classic "weapons of choice" used by Mexican drug traffickers - semi-automatic versions of military type rifles and pistols.<br /><br />Sources tell CBS News several gun shops wanted to stop the questionable sales, but ATF encouraged them to continue.<br /><br /> . . .<br /><br />ATF managers allegedly made a controversial decision: allow most of the weapons on the streets. The idea, they said, was to gather intelligence and see where the guns ended up. Insiders say it's a dangerous tactic called letting the guns, "walk."</i><br /><br />And <i>those</i> sick, evil thugs are the people to whom you want to give <i>more</i> power, more funding, more information about who is buying guns?!<br /><br /><b>Fuck</b> that.<br /><br />This is just the beginning. This is Watergate, but with people getting killed.Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32967128276403458182011-02-24T05:19:31.742+01:002011-02-24T05:19:31.742+01:00Baldr Odinson:
Well, gun guys? What possible rea...Baldr Odinson: <br /><br /><i>Well, gun guys? What possible reason can you invent to justify voting against this?</i><br /><br />There <i>is</i> no rational reason to vote against it, and that's why it's so gratifying that 236 Republicans, and even 41 Democrats, voted <i>for</i> the measure to block the BATFE's illegal power grab.<br /><br />Good to see that Congress appears to be acquiring the moral courage to stand up to the executive branch's oppressive, unconstitutional agenda.Zorroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192598462809799995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20683934765378285532011-02-23T14:53:52.784+01:002011-02-23T14:53:52.784+01:00Maybe because Congress has discovered the abuses a...Maybe because Congress has discovered the abuses and mis-management of the ATF and their "Project Gunwalker" scandal - Where the BATF for several months had been ALLOWING thousands of guns to be trafficked across the border to boost their numbers (to justify their existence and budget, I guess), and a border patrol agent was killed with one of the guns they let go across the border.<br /><a href="http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/project-gunwalker-charges-surfacing-on-fox-news" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/project-gunwalker-charges-surfacing-on-fox-news</a><br /><br />BATF needs to be disbanded. They have abused the people and their authority for far too long. They're nothing more than armed tax collectors, after all.<br /><br />...Orygunner...Orygunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829265216321634830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-278430944972611562011-02-23T09:40:04.719+01:002011-02-23T09:40:04.719+01:00Well, gun guys? What possible reason can you inve...Well, gun guys? What possible reason can you invent to justify voting against this? Why would anyone want to buy multiple assault rifles down near the border unless it is for illicit sales to Mexico?Baldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-12493803056676157092011-02-23T09:03:47.236+01:002011-02-23T09:03:47.236+01:00Now if they would only fix the border. My idea is ...Now if they would only fix the border. My idea is to replace Border Patrol with National Guard.AztecRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00027951757285806109noreply@blogger.com