tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post3113582465488993844..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) Still Pretending to Not Understand What The Gun Show Loophole IsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53858597226445776332013-01-28T12:02:58.273+01:002013-01-28T12:02:58.273+01:00Dan Gross.Dan Gross.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34756273765420345642013-01-27T19:55:32.714+01:002013-01-27T19:55:32.714+01:00I mock elected representatives because I read abou...I mock elected representatives because I read about their actions and hear their words. Take a random sample of bills proposed in Congress. More times than not, it'll sound like jibberish.<br /><br />But here's a challenge to you. Show me one gun control advocate on the national stage who can speak in a manner that gun experts would call intelligent and informed. I'll even be impressed if you can find one on lesser levels of exposure.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63576836275435855132013-01-27T16:56:58.581+01:002013-01-27T16:56:58.581+01:00Not really all that fine a line. I simply used the...Not really all that fine a line. I simply used the words to mean precisely what I meant and nothing more. Words are important, MIke. They have the power to influence and persuade, clarify or obscure and enlighten (or darken if you will), if the right ones are used at the right time. None of which suggest a conspiracy. Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89122052812904919302013-01-27T13:16:06.929+01:002013-01-27T13:16:06.929+01:00That's too broad a brush you're painting w...That's too broad a brush you're painting with there, Greg. I'd say there are some gun control folks active in the debate who don't know as much as the average gun owner, but not most. Many of us have been gun owners ourselves. Most of us are fairly intelligent and can read. What's really funny is when you talk about Senators and Congresspeople as if they're stupid. It's superficial self-aggrandizement on your part, nothing more.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84356829781492767112013-01-27T13:12:05.821+01:002013-01-27T13:12:05.821+01:00That's a pretty fine line you're drawing t...That's a pretty fine line you're drawing there. Manipulation to achieve a hidden agenda sounds a lot like conspiracy to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26500491055130352622013-01-26T17:50:18.616+01:002013-01-26T17:50:18.616+01:00The fact is that many in this debate have no clue ...The fact is that many in this debate have no clue what they're talking about. How else can we explain Carolyn McCarthy's "shoulder thing that goes up"? Most people who favor gun control are ignorant of guns--how they function, their uses, the rights related to them, and so forth.<br /><br />My evidence? All the gun control people I've talked to. All the ones I've read or listened to. Many years ago, when I was on your side, I knew nothing about guns. Then I learned. Logic and knowledge are on the gun rights side.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32102374772477253262013-01-26T17:34:21.865+01:002013-01-26T17:34:21.865+01:00Please, don't put words in my mouth. I said it...Please, don't put words in my mouth. I said it was a manipulative phrase. I neither stated nor implied a belief in a conspiracy. The two are not the same. Manipulation, in and of itself, does not a conspiracy make.Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62106441696411394442013-01-26T11:21:23.774+01:002013-01-26T11:21:23.774+01:00I don't think it was a conspiracy "design...I don't think it was a conspiracy "designed to create support for greater gun control legislation," but maybe it was. The fact is everyone involved in the gun debate knows what we're talking about. I myself often refer to it as the "private sale loophole" in order to save myself from the inevitable silly comments that always follow "gun show loophole." Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-31116182252979877322013-01-25T20:03:34.097+01:002013-01-25T20:03:34.097+01:00The law applies to every licensed firearms dealer....The law applies to every licensed firearms dealer. Private sellers are specifically exempted, regardless of where the private sale takes place. "Gun show loophole" is nothing more than a manipulative phrase specifically designed to create support for greater gun control legislation. Otherwise, it would be just as easy to simply say "we want to regulate private sales just like we do sales by licensed dealers". We could call it the "Private Firearms Sale Regulation Act" and publicly specify exactly what the requirements would be for each and every individual who dared to sell his father's old Browning "Sweet 16".Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40045373533757546232013-01-25T16:32:35.548+01:002013-01-25T16:32:35.548+01:00And what's right around the corner after licen...And what's right around the corner after licensing and registration? Confiscation. Again, Mikeb, we can't trust your side. We can't believe you when you say that you don't want to take away all guns.<br /><br />But Cruz is correct. The law as written exempts private sales. Those aren't limited to gun shows. The term, gun show loophole, is designed to create the impression that gun shows are the focus of all evil in the firearms world. But the only wickedness that I've seen at them are cases when someone tries to sell a Mosin Nagant with a cheap scope for $400.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com