tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post3347168597495626453..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Lawful Idaho Gun Owner Gets 10 Months for Killing his FriendAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82561455548977456442014-02-14T12:28:44.006+01:002014-02-14T12:28:44.006+01:00It doesn't irk me at all. You might be fairly...It doesn't irk me at all. You might be fairly responsible for all I know. But, your refusal to admit that alcohol, even in moderation, detracts from your ability to be that, is very telling.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57690259906512154482014-02-13T14:26:17.654+01:002014-02-13T14:26:17.654+01:00I don't drink five or six beers in one sitting...I don't drink five or six beers in one sitting or any other kind of alcohol to excess. And that's the point. You keep tossing insinuations my way, but what you're doing is denying that I can be a rational and responsible person and still own guns. That concept irks you.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20279412255602699152014-02-13T11:44:12.860+01:002014-02-13T11:44:12.860+01:00Greg, I didn't say "moderate drinking tur...Greg, I didn't say "moderate drinking turns most people into raging fools." This is why you've been called the site liar.<br /><br />What I said was drinking alcohol "less capable and competent." It's a matter of degree, one beer, no big deal, five or six...???Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57016512333928301542014-02-12T17:36:40.479+01:002014-02-12T17:36:40.479+01:00Mikeb, I have no interest in marijuana, and it'...Mikeb, I have no interest in marijuana, and it's illegal. Other drugs are much more powerful, and I have no interest in them, either. But moderate drinking doesn't turn most people into raging fools. If that's the effect that it has on you, I recommend you get treatment.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-38393137096367956482014-02-12T15:30:50.180+01:002014-02-12T15:30:50.180+01:00Greg, as usual you find it necessary to lie about ...Greg, as usual you find it necessary to lie about what I said. I DID NOT say when you drink you immediately pick up a gun. What I said is that for every drink you take, you become less capable and competent. Why would you drink at all? Even moderate drinking impairs your ability to protect yourself in case you need to. And if moderate drinking is acceptable in your world view, why not pot and other drugs? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84714829705391907232014-02-11T21:04:19.309+01:002014-02-11T21:04:19.309+01:00As Greg has told us:
"revenge is justice.&quo...As Greg has told us:<br />"revenge is justice."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11418361343438486402014-02-11T19:20:00.343+01:002014-02-11T19:20:00.343+01:00Fact is you stated you see nothing wrong with drin...Fact is you stated you see nothing wrong with drinking while using your gun.<br />It's hard to escape your own words printed for all to read. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3717943858849512802014-02-11T17:12:20.130+01:002014-02-11T17:12:20.130+01:00Mikeb, despite your simplistic view of things, it&...Mikeb, despite your simplistic view of things, it's possible for someone to drink alcohol without immediately picking up a gun, even if there's a gun in the house. If I were to use a firearm while under the influence, I'd be responsible for what happened. But I don't do that. I realize that you can't imagine how any gun owner could possibly be sufficiently intelligent enough for that, but as I've pointed out to you many times, your speculation and desperate narrative are not facts.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7823509538835954072014-02-11T16:49:07.940+01:002014-02-11T16:49:07.940+01:00Glad to see you agree:
"This is about a faile...Glad to see you agree:<br />"This is about a failed gun culture that kills people for no legitimate reason because of people obsessed with their gun fetish."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32365583047890175962014-02-11T16:47:48.792+01:002014-02-11T16:47:48.792+01:00Greg would give the guy his guns back when he gets...Greg would give the guy his guns back when he gets out of jail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56933329385962229102014-02-11T14:23:33.579+01:002014-02-11T14:23:33.579+01:00Hey, you're the one who brews his own beer. Th...Hey, you're the one who brews his own beer. That means if you imbibe AT ALL, it's just a matter of degree as to how out-of-control you get. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25085036198979973192014-02-11T03:04:53.189+01:002014-02-11T03:04:53.189+01:00Being drunk and playing with weapons? I'm all ...Being drunk and playing with weapons? I'm all for retribution. Because if I was the father or other relative of the dead guy, I'd be laying for this NRA fuck. And THAT is coming. The NRA is bringing us, day by day, closer and closer to the blood feud.POed Former-Libhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04515300327544898083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37187590257027547932014-02-10T12:43:01.969+01:002014-02-10T12:43:01.969+01:00A culture that you have participated in, Dog Gone....A culture that you have participated in, Dog Gone.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43087350531309044802014-02-10T12:42:36.617+01:002014-02-10T12:42:36.617+01:00No, Mikeb, if you choose to be out of control beca...No, Mikeb, if you choose to be out of control because of alcohol or some other substance, that choice should be counted as intent. Whatever happens while under the influence is a consequence of the initial act.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45973344646298816752014-02-10T09:21:39.763+01:002014-02-10T09:21:39.763+01:00Greg, are you just an out-of-control disagreeable ...Greg, are you just an out-of-control disagreeable guy who argues with everything I post? Murder must include intent, haven't you yourself told me that? This capricious flip-flopping of yours speaks to your basic dishonesty. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62973411869058984162014-02-10T00:38:56.049+01:002014-02-10T00:38:56.049+01:00There is a difference between what we call restora...There is a difference between what we call restorative justice, versus eye-for-an-eye retributive justice. We no longer embrace the barbarity of the latter as justice.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55097989454106263252014-02-10T00:37:22.424+01:002014-02-10T00:37:22.424+01:00Amen. The 2a is about communal defense.
This is a...Amen. The 2a is about communal defense.<br /><br />This is about a failed gun culture that kills people for no legitimate reason because of people obsessed with their gun fetish.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-71493870554290452642014-02-10T00:36:20.333+01:002014-02-10T00:36:20.333+01:00I think it is worth more than the sentence given.
...I think it is worth more than the sentence given.<br /><br />Alcohol goes to level and capacity for intent. I don't see that he committed murder, which tends to require premeditation and planning.<br /><br />One more person who should not have had a gun, and another indictment of the gun culture and too-lax gun laws.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-73064191253783609832014-02-09T22:29:25.233+01:002014-02-09T22:29:25.233+01:00Obviously alcohol can't be an excuse. There i...Obviously alcohol can't be an excuse. There is really no such thing as an excuse when a crime occurs. Remorse counts for something, but is no guarantee of leniency. Vehicular manslaughter while driving intoxicated is treated like murder. Isn't ten years a common sentence? Why should this guy get his life back so soon? It is possible to do a year in jail for multiple DUIs without even killing anyone. No probation? I guess it's not really a crime in Idaho.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62612011313290278112014-02-09T22:15:35.708+01:002014-02-09T22:15:35.708+01:00I'd settle for seeing the NRA fuck get shot in...I'd settle for seeing the NRA fuck get shot in the head. We have capital punishment for gunsuck murderers. I don't give a fuck whether he was drunk. Shoot the shit NOW.Nick Dangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727464610942686550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17853831860563712132014-02-09T19:00:46.569+01:002014-02-09T19:00:46.569+01:00Nonsense. There is no right to commit murder. Mu...Nonsense. There is no right to commit murder. Murder is a violation of rights.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65534540496602151322014-02-09T13:14:40.561+01:002014-02-09T13:14:40.561+01:00Crimes with guns can't really be crimes becaus...Crimes with guns can't really be crimes because the 2A says shall not be infringed. The "logical" conclusion of firearm fondlers beliefs.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-29349440743912163722014-02-09T08:53:38.817+01:002014-02-09T08:53:38.817+01:00Alcohol should be no excuse. He committed murder....Alcohol should be no excuse. He committed murder. He should be punished for that. But it's interesting that you don't regard this crime as worth more than a few months.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com