tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post379805805192896011..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: The HuffPo's Take on All the ShootingsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40009581059372241612009-04-11T15:53:00.000+02:002009-04-11T15:53:00.000+02:00Gee Mike,More fun with the comments eh?What was in...Gee Mike,<BR/><BR/>More fun with the comments eh?<BR/><BR/>What was in my response to you that was unacceptable?<BR/><BR/>Was I rude? Was I disrespectful?<BR/><BR/>You asked a question but can't seem to stand the answer and let people see the response.<BR/><BR/>That is sad.Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20000952894996570052009-04-10T22:36:00.000+02:002009-04-10T22:36:00.000+02:00Weer'd asked why keep talking about "issues that h...Weer'd asked why keep talking about "<I>issues that have long been put to bed?</I><BR/><BR/>Your arguments, although you keep repeating them, are not convincing. Just because I haven't resorted to calling you names and rebutting every single point you make does not mean I have been convinced.<BR/><BR/>So, the issues have not been put to bed. Where did you ever get the idea that they had?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57913509098827189442009-04-09T14:50:00.000+02:002009-04-09T14:50:00.000+02:00Jesus Mike, we've been over this dozens of times b...Jesus Mike, we've been over this dozens of times before.<BR/><BR/>Why badger with issues that have long been put to bed?<BR/><BR/>I mean besides your desire to make the populous MORE ignorant on this issue.Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36073944670261042702009-04-09T14:48:00.000+02:002009-04-09T14:48:00.000+02:00"Don't you think the federal government should be ..."Don't you think the federal government should be able to do something through legislation?"<BR/><BR/>You can't be this dumb mike! Please tell me you're not serious? A myriad of laws already in place, numerous laws broken, and your solution is MORE LAWS.<BR/><BR/>That is INSANE Mike.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17421928799532304292009-04-09T14:30:00.000+02:002009-04-09T14:30:00.000+02:00MikeB,Does the 2nd Amendment right mean that every...MikeB,<BR/><BR/><I>Does the 2nd Amendment right mean that everyone who wants to should be able to buy a gun? </I><BR/><BR/>Short answer is yes. Longer answer is yes UNLESS a person's behavior or mental status prohibits them. Frankly I'm of the opinion that if a person can't be trusted with a firearm, they shouldn't be trusted to be in general society, age appropriate guidelines apply.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>I think that causes too many problems, like the ones we've been seeing in the news lately.</I><BR/><BR/>You think, but can't provide any evidence that it "causes too many problems". <BR/><BR/>In the meantime, we've done the math, REPEATEDLY, showing that the problems related to firearms are a very minor percentage of the total crime rate. <BR/><BR/>Should our rights be dependent on the misdeeds of a few?<BR/><BR/>That is what the basic question boils down to, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>If there are 12,000 firearm related homicides a year, that is still only 0.0039344% of the population using a firearm to murder someone. <BR/><BR/>12,000 homicides is too many, but there is NO PROOF that removing firearms would reduce that number. It is an matter of social, economic and moral cultural issues instead of firearm availability.<BR/><BR/>For thousands of years, firearms weren't available....Now do you think the murder rate was higher or lower in the time of Genghis Khan? The middle ages, the crusades?<BR/><BR/>It is a simply fallacy to assume that people will become law abiding, respectful NON-VIOLENT citizens if you remove firearms. England, as much as you deny it is a perfect example.<BR/><BR/><I>Don't you think the federal government should be able to do something through legislation?</I><BR/><BR/>Hey, I have any idea...let's make it DOUBLE ILLEGAL TO KILL SOMEONE WITH A FIREARM.<BR/><BR/>Let's make it more illlegal to rob somoeone with a firearm.<BR/><BR/>Let's make it illegal to go crazy and kill people because you don't speak the language very well.<BR/><BR/>Here is a clue....we already have federal legislation. How well are the crooks observing those laws?<BR/><BR/>What law, short of a complete ban and confiscation, can be passed that will stop people from raping, assaulting, and murdering each other with firearms?Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22010382248225189182009-04-09T12:02:00.000+02:002009-04-09T12:02:00.000+02:00I think it's a question of interpretation. Does t...I think it's a question of interpretation. Does the 2nd Amendment right mean that everyone who wants to should be able to buy a gun? I think that causes too many problems, like the ones we've been seeing in the news lately. Don't you think the federal government should be able to do something through legislation?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-49675773419151475402009-04-09T02:39:00.000+02:002009-04-09T02:39:00.000+02:00But Muddy and Micro are lefties, so they get prior...But Muddy and Micro are lefties, so they get priority seating!<BR/><BR/>"Some Animals are more equal than others" -George OrwellWeer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54499321389390191872009-04-08T19:48:00.000+02:002009-04-08T19:48:00.000+02:00Notice the order in which the comments appear also...Notice the order in which the comments appear also.<BR/><BR/>It seems that my comment was made approximately 30 minutes prior to Mud's comment that added nothing to the discussion, was a personal attack on individuals and definitely wasn't respectful.<BR/><BR/>Now, compare and contrast that with my comment.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Mike you could inform me what was disrespectful, impolite or otherwise causing a non-approval of my comment?Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-8095552070406386022009-04-08T18:19:00.000+02:002009-04-08T18:19:00.000+02:00Kinda neat how the comments appear when he's calle...Kinda neat how the comments appear when he's called on it.<BR/><BR/>Like Magic!Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64491681710727459532009-04-08T16:20:00.000+02:002009-04-08T16:20:00.000+02:00"My rights, all of them, exist independent of the ...<EM>"My rights, all of them, exist independent of the Constitution."</EM><BR/><BR/>This is a refreshing departure from the typical conservative claim that federal courts should only recognize rights found "in" the Constitution.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949277110519169919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34741985270544510772009-04-08T16:07:00.000+02:002009-04-08T16:07:00.000+02:00Hmm, Mud wonders why the pro-gunners haven't comme...Hmm, Mud wonders why the pro-gunners haven't commented yet, but I have commented here and MikeB hasn't approved it.<BR/><BR/>Hasn't approved several other comments either. <BR/><BR/>Wonder why that is Mike?Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37837090951662242482009-04-08T15:52:00.000+02:002009-04-08T15:52:00.000+02:00We've made coherent arguments against all these ti...We've made coherent arguments against all these tired claims. We've cited laws, stats, and studies.<BR/><BR/>Can you stop posting this same old logical fallacies and just give up now, Mike?<BR/><BR/>You're wrong, the people you cite are wrong, and you all know better.Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14569131850414393852009-04-08T15:41:00.000+02:002009-04-08T15:41:00.000+02:00is the ACLU too strong in America too Mike? The N...is the ACLU too strong in America too Mike? The NRA merely lobbies in defense of a Constitutional Right. You act as if defense of the BOR is a bad thing.<BR/><BR/>As far as your claim that we should change or at least "reinterpret" the 2nd Amendment so that it may be meaningless and we can go ahead and disarm American citizens (which is what you want) I only have one thing to say to that.<BR/><BR/>Repealing the 2nd Amendment doesn’t make it go away anymore than repealing the rest of the Bill of Rights would allow the government to kick in my door and rob, beat, imprison and torture me with impunity. The 2nd Amendment is inherent and inalienable just like the rest of the Bill of Rights. Words on ink & parchment don't "grant" me the right to keep & bear arms, they merely codify a pre-existing right. My rights, all of them, exist independent of the Constitution.<BR/><BR/>By the way Mike, CA and NY have lower rates of gun ownership (per capita) than many other states with lax gun laws. If the number of guns is the problem shouldn't states like CA and NY, with stricter laws and fewer gun owners have lower violent crime rates?Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7433170122967344912009-04-08T14:52:00.000+02:002009-04-08T14:52:00.000+02:00It's hard to believe that the two usual pro-gunner...It's hard to believe that the two usual pro-gunners have not yet dropped their load here.<BR/><BR/>On my blog I was accused of being a <I>Typical anti-freedom, pro-ignorance crowd behavior. Folding when faced with facts and truth.</I><BR/><BR/>Funny stuff, always a hoot on the right side of life.mud_rakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04786611698569598023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51959246631436031722009-04-08T14:29:00.000+02:002009-04-08T14:29:00.000+02:00MikeB,As much as the gun enthusiasts lament all th...MikeB,<BR/><BR/><I>As much as the gun enthusiasts lament all the gun laws, there doesn't seem to be much difficulty for anyone who wants guns to get them.</I><BR/><BR/>Why should there be a difficulty in getting firearms if you aren't a prohibited person?<BR/><BR/>Is there any difficulties in getting a computer and a camera?<BR/><BR/>Nope, less difficulty getting the implements of child porn then getting a firearm. <BR/><BR/>Are you willing to put the same restrictions on those pieces of equipment to prevent that horrible crime?<BR/><BR/>Texas is trying to loosen the restrictions and those attempts make sense.<BR/><BR/>One of them is if a bar does not display the proper signage, telling people it makes 51% or more of its money from the sale of alcohol - making it a prohibited place -- people can still be arrested for carrying concealed there. How exactly, as a customer walking in the door, am I to know how they make their money?<BR/><BR/>Others is letting CHL holders carry on campus. Can you honestly say that someone who has a CHL is likely to cause a problem on campus?<BR/><BR/><I>Now we're talking about the real problem: too many guns. I've been saying it for months, and it seems I'm not the only one.</I><BR/><BR/>Then why are there more deaths attributed to CARS and Alcohol then there are to firearms?<BR/><BR/>It isn't the gun, it is the people using them. We've covered this before, you are now just repeating your say tired unsupported opinion.Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.com