tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post3802095261118975293..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Store Clerk Shoots Angry Customer - A False DGUAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-6988210127873771992012-12-06T03:54:42.200+01:002012-12-06T03:54:42.200+01:00I agree with you Democommie. If you have the oppo...I agree with you Democommie. If you have the opportunity to end or avoid a hostile situation by simply keeping the door closed then that is what you must absolutely do. After securing the door, he should have called 911. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52810467896371634592012-12-04T17:11:48.146+01:002012-12-04T17:11:48.146+01:00So is that a yes or a no, Mikeb? We both have an ...So is that a yes or a no, Mikeb? We both have an agenda, but the question is one of fact.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-15395084268982126192012-12-04T11:44:33.633+01:002012-12-04T11:44:33.633+01:00FJ, it's so simple and clear, when you don'...FJ, it's so simple and clear, when you don't have an agenda.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3175704386245048852012-12-03T22:35:01.797+01:002012-12-03T22:35:01.797+01:00Assuming that the shop clerk could not keep the do...Assuming that the shop clerk could not keep the door closed and had to take the punch. I feel the only realistic course of action would be to try and step back while preparing the pepper spray for use. At this point the use of pepper spray is justified and likely needed. The thug punched the clerk once and he could easily do it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-695939356378784632012-12-03T21:45:19.160+01:002012-12-03T21:45:19.160+01:00So you don't believe that one person can kill ...So you don't believe that one person can kill another with a club, knife, or simply bare fists?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54198584355833336342012-12-03T20:19:33.308+01:002012-12-03T20:19:33.308+01:00It just really points up that when angry people ca...It just really points up that when angry people carry guns around, other people get killed. If nobody has a weapon, a small conflict or fight can be almost nothing. No fatality required. Guns are specifically for killing people.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46127807904409142942012-12-03T15:18:48.589+01:002012-12-03T15:18:48.589+01:00Your blog gets a lot of views, but that's beca...Your blog gets a lot of views, but that's because people enjoy controversy. The gun control movement is losing. One reason is that your side keeps objecting when a good citizen defends himself against a violent attack.<br /><br />What we see in the video was not a slap. But as I said, keep doing what you're doing. With enemies like you, how can we lose?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55903961344966223452012-12-03T12:42:03.727+01:002012-12-03T12:42:03.727+01:00My blog is losing because I don't think you ca...My blog is losing because I don't think you can shoot someone for a slap in the face?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10418515852614848962012-12-03T09:46:28.916+01:002012-12-03T09:46:28.916+01:00I'm working from what the video said, but did ...I'm working from what the video said, but did you catch the part about how I wouldn't likely have opened the door? It's easier to complain about reading comprhension than to practice it.<br /><br />Also, I've told you this before, but you apparently need a refresher. You're not my father.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57286445477396146152012-12-03T09:41:43.146+01:002012-12-03T09:41:43.146+01:00I'm glad I missed the 60s--including the lefto...I'm glad I missed the 60s--including the leftover 60s.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-48779470706841095392012-12-03T09:40:30.853+01:002012-12-03T09:40:30.853+01:00Someone like that punches you, and you do nothing,...Someone like that punches you, and you do nothing, what do you expect to be the response? The attacker is likely to punch again, this time harder. Notice how the good guy with the gun hasn't been charged? Notice also how the good guy with the gun wasn't a fat white man? If the cops had seen a crime here, the shooter would have been arrested--isn't that your usual claim?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21184952593633427562012-12-03T09:36:37.221+01:002012-12-03T09:36:37.221+01:00Keep believing that, Mikeb. This is one of many r...Keep believing that, Mikeb. This is one of many reasons why your side is losing.<br /><br />Dog Gone, any answer?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91656499432209374232012-12-03T08:49:47.383+01:002012-12-03T08:49:47.383+01:00I like your style better than the guy in the vid.I like your style better than the guy in the vid.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22808162393755075742012-12-03T08:48:19.091+01:002012-12-03T08:48:19.091+01:00Or, how about backing down and letting the puncher...Or, how about backing down and letting the puncher win? In this case there was no follow-up attack. It was over. But. that's too much for most gun owners to even consider. Their egos wouldn't allow such a departure from justice.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83469467208299277232012-12-03T08:45:20.589+01:002012-12-03T08:45:20.589+01:00No, that was not clear at all. A true assault woul...No, that was not clear at all. A true assault would not end with a soft punch in the face that didn't even hardly phase the guy. It would have been a much harder punch followed by further attack. <br /><br />The guy with the gun was a punk just like so many of you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36661037343925116332012-12-03T05:45:38.579+01:002012-12-03T05:45:38.579+01:00Justice Pacific Beach style. Halloween night 1990...Justice Pacific Beach style. Halloween night 1990, my buddy and me are too tight on LSD and alcohol. Two dewds bop into the store and start clowning around. I call them fags. The burly, long-haired guy clocks me dead on the jaw. I recover. I tell the clerk. "Hey man, I don't want any trouble in a liquor store!"<br /><br />He sells liquor to both parties and we all go home happy.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63019043913742057532012-12-03T03:12:10.492+01:002012-12-03T03:12:10.492+01:00It appears as if keeping the door closed and locke...It appears as if keeping the door closed and locked was a realistic option. If that was indeed the case then that is what the shooter should have done. However, if that was not an option utilizing a non-lethal device, such as pepper spray, would be the next step to neutralize the threat without possible loss of life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22877598829606018952012-12-03T03:05:53.751+01:002012-12-03T03:05:53.751+01:00"Someone punches me in the face? Yup, that..."Someone punches me in the face? Yup, that's a genuine threat.<br /><br />Punch them back, you fucking pussy.<br /><br />"Apparently, Democommie is more accommodating."<br /><br />Not fucking likely, but then I wouldn't have been stupid enough to open the door and put myself in that position. <br /><br />"I likely wouldn't have unlocked the door in the situation shown in the video, but we don't know if the attacker threatened to break the glass."<br /><br />Is reading for comprehension a problem for you. Wait, I know the answer. According to several reports the station had bullet proof windows. Whether it did or not, the clerk should have called the police and hunkered down. Not everybody is a marksman of your caliber, Greggie (it's a little joke, son, you get the drift?) and taking on several people who might be armed would be what? INCREDIBLY FUCKING STUPIT!, that's what.<br /><br />Looks like Mr. Azzam has a predilection for shootin' teh gunz when he's "threatened" (http://www.khou.com/home/Clerk-captured-in-violent-Valero-confrontation-has-opened-fire-on-job-before--181484701.html)<br /><br />democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83850725914781233292012-12-03T00:25:25.925+01:002012-12-03T00:25:25.925+01:00Mikeb, let's use your methods here. Do you im...Mikeb, let's use your methods here. Do you imagine that this is the first time the attacker has hit someone? If someone who has a gun accident is likely to have had others in the past, someone who commits battery is also likely to have been violent previously.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27241988117233419732012-12-02T21:06:38.674+01:002012-12-02T21:06:38.674+01:00Someone punches me in the face? Yup, that's a...Someone punches me in the face? Yup, that's a genuine threat. Apparently, Democommie is more accommodating. I likely wouldn't have unlocked the door in the situation shown in the video, but we don't know if the attacker threatened to break the glass.<br /><br />On your other point, the fact that some lawyer could file a suit on behalf of the attacker and might get money, if only in a nuisance settlement, is an illustration of what's wrong with our legal system.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20968568076834002732012-12-02T20:29:51.732+01:002012-12-02T20:29:51.732+01:00What does Greg Camp want? He wants to be allowed t...What does Greg Camp want? He wants to be allowed to shoot people who "threaten" him without having to worry about any consequences for doing so--whether it's warranted or not. When does he want to do that? Always.<br /><br />I wonder if the service station's owner (it's unclear whether the station is a franchise operation or company owned) has a set of rules in the employees handbook, detailing how to deal with situations like the one reported. If so, I'm guessing that their liability lawyer might tell them that encouraging employee vigilantism is prolly a spectacularly bad idea. democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17104882864589734622012-12-02T19:39:52.496+01:002012-12-02T19:39:52.496+01:00That was a punch that clearly put the victim at ri...That was a punch that clearly put the victim at risk of TBI or death. Good shooting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35267931370723281042012-12-02T18:59:44.661+01:002012-12-02T18:59:44.661+01:00Let me see if I have this right. The guy was in th...Let me see if I have this right. The guy was in the store where he had a fair degree of protection, so he goes OUTSIDE where he has none? <br /><br />This seems to be another one of those, "I got me a gun, I ain't takin' shit from no motherfucker" sortathangs. <br /><br />The store clerk is, at the least, a moron.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16811647627999455892012-12-02T15:59:50.812+01:002012-12-02T15:59:50.812+01:00So being punched in the face isn't enough, in ...So being punched in the face isn't enough, in your mind, to justify using a gun to defend oneself. Two questions, Dog Gone:<br /><br />1. Describe a scenario in which you would regard using a gun as an appropriate response.<br /><br />2. Explain why you had a gun and a carry license when you had a stalker.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87279790631353203892012-12-02T15:57:32.113+01:002012-12-02T15:57:32.113+01:00What do we want? Justice. Exactly. When the guy...What do we want? Justice. Exactly. When the guy who punched the store clerk recovers from the gun shot wound, he should go to jail. Beyond that, the clerk should file a wrongful termination suit against the owner.<br /><br />What do we want? Justice. When do we want it? Now.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com