tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post4139646790749630732..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Minnesota 15-Year-old Charged in Friends Accidental ShootingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-70520644294831102222013-12-25T19:11:48.662+01:002013-12-25T19:11:48.662+01:00Of course we have to go by what a criminal lying c...Of course we have to go by what a criminal lying coward defines as a crime. No thanks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-18923712932292017822013-12-24T18:16:32.317+01:002013-12-24T18:16:32.317+01:00Laws at times make crimes out of things that shoul...Laws at times make crimes out of things that shouldn't be criminal. Those laws have no moral force.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55551405297568898512013-12-24T12:57:05.327+01:002013-12-24T12:57:05.327+01:00You guys are dodging the question. It all began wi...You guys are dodging the question. It all began with Truth be Told's unfortunate phraseology. He said "laws criminalize people." I object to that for the reasons I mentioned already a few times. What say you about that, ss and Greg?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85635179184856722062013-12-23T18:22:25.463+01:002013-12-23T18:22:25.463+01:00No surprise Greg thinks running away from the law ...No surprise Greg thinks running away from the law is the right thing to do, he is this sites criminal lying coward. Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55724495293216048482013-12-23T18:21:09.763+01:002013-12-23T18:21:09.763+01:00That's our criminal lying coward Greg. Defend ...That's our criminal lying coward Greg. Defend illegality, again. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-67813983252070293952013-12-23T18:19:24.747+01:002013-12-23T18:19:24.747+01:00The cowardly liar has to twist words, because he h...The cowardly liar has to twist words, because he has no thruth to stand on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16821646584622707232013-12-23T14:30:25.397+01:002013-12-23T14:30:25.397+01:00Mikeb, Anonymous claimed that a parent cannot give...Mikeb, Anonymous claimed that a parent cannot give consent to a twelve-year-old to drive. That's wrong. On the family's property, a twelve-year-old can drive, and in farm country, that's not uncommon. I can't help it that you citified leftists never get out of your rabbit warrens.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19356184364847679932013-12-23T14:28:13.843+01:002013-12-23T14:28:13.843+01:00Protesting and being arrested is one approach. Th...Protesting and being arrested is one approach. There are others. I'm not talking about methods of resisting unjust laws here because that's a debate about tactics. I'm saying that an unjust law has no moral force.<br /><br />And Edward Snowden is a hero who exposed the gross violations being done by our government. Mikeb, I hope you don't go along with Anonymous's claim there. Your leftist card would be revoked if you did.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41820345663259131802013-12-23T12:30:07.218+01:002013-12-23T12:30:07.218+01:00Greg, the "on your own property" argumen...Greg, the "on your own property" argument about car laws is really bullshit. You love to throw percentages at me, but when probably one-tenth of one percent of cars are being driven on private roads, you use it. That's hypocritical and inconsistent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-39843212729307536322013-12-23T12:12:21.568+01:002013-12-23T12:12:21.568+01:00Did Thorough blame the law like you guys keep doin...Did Thorough blame the law like you guys keep doing, or did he take responsibility for his decision to disobey it and take his punishment?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64481999989338622232013-12-23T08:27:57.203+01:002013-12-23T08:27:57.203+01:00" If you decide to disobey what you think is ..." If you decide to disobey what you think is an unjust law then you may have to suffer the consequences."<br />Civil disobedience means breaking the law. Have the courage of your convictions, and go to jail as many citizens have for burning draft cards and other acts of civil disobedience. <br />Snowden is a criminal, a traitor; and he did not even have the courage of his convictions, he ran like a guilty criminal. Yes, that would mean a long legal fight and time in jail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50046786526812057252013-12-22T20:45:53.780+01:002013-12-22T20:45:53.780+01:00Or read Civil Disobedience, by Thoreau himself. M...Or read Civil Disobedience, by Thoreau himself. Martin Luther King, Jr. saw Thoreau as one of his inspirations for fighting unjust laws.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74880574961942575212013-12-22T02:08:23.230+01:002013-12-22T02:08:23.230+01:00Anon,
With your claim that all laws must be d...Anon,<br /><br /> With your claim that all laws must be disobeyed, you clearly seem to be missing Greg's point regarding blind obedience of unjust or immoral laws. I believe there was a group of people a while back that tried the just following orders defense. A socialist group called the Nazis. <br /> Might I suggest a bit of reading on a play called "The Night Thoreau Spent In Jail".<br /><br />"The play is based on the early life of the titular character, Henry David Thoreau, leading up to his night spent in a jail in Concord, Massachusetts. Thoreau was jailed for refusing to pay a poll tax on the grounds that the money might be used to pay for the Mexican-American War, which he opposed."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Thoreau_Spent_in_Jail<br /><br /> ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28032775065028197712013-12-21T21:02:46.517+01:002013-12-21T21:02:46.517+01:00Your twisting words don't even reflect my comm...Your twisting words don't even reflect my comment. Typical for the cowardly liar of this site. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34238862303251153502013-12-21T21:01:26.508+01:002013-12-21T21:01:26.508+01:00That's our criminal thinking Greg. Only laws H...That's our criminal thinking Greg. Only laws HE thinks are OK, will he follow, otherwise, he doesn't follow the law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-49127922216602360232013-12-21T18:37:53.430+01:002013-12-21T18:37:53.430+01:00An unjust law has no moral force. The fact that i...An unjust law has no moral force. The fact that it has physical force only makes it dangerous at times to oppose.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-73278333391482023112013-12-21T18:35:57.599+01:002013-12-21T18:35:57.599+01:00"...to drive on their own property." Wh..."...to drive on their own property." What part of gun shot death do you get out of that?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-68640892032205435992013-12-21T11:24:38.901+01:002013-12-21T11:24:38.901+01:00There are ways to deal with unjust laws. The poin...There are ways to deal with unjust laws. The point of my comment to Truth be Told is that people are responsible for their actions. If you decide to disobey what you think is an unjust law then you may have to suffer the consequences. But you cannot blame the law, you cannot say the law did something to you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-39303763937834318642013-12-21T11:20:59.142+01:002013-12-21T11:20:59.142+01:00Was all that to say you agree with me? Was all that to say you agree with me? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52764993558345652792013-12-21T09:26:47.597+01:002013-12-21T09:26:47.597+01:00NO, a gun just kills. "On their own property....NO, a gun just kills. "On their own property." You just dream up excuses for gun shot deaths. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56027333965920482342013-12-21T05:24:00.129+01:002013-12-21T05:24:00.129+01:00Actually, a parent can allow a child to drive on t...Actually, a parent can allow a child to drive on their own property. And unlike alcohol or tobacco, a gun doesn't stunt a child's growth or cause other harmful effects when used appropriately.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74740870761183669232013-12-21T01:00:37.787+01:002013-12-21T01:00:37.787+01:00What's unjust about making parents responsible...What's unjust about making parents responsible for their children's behavior? We do it every other form of minor crime. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56722350849418889862013-12-20T19:29:52.288+01:002013-12-20T19:29:52.288+01:00I see guns the same as alcohol and tobacco. It sho...I see guns the same as alcohol and tobacco. It should be an adult activity. Only when you are of legal age should you be able to buy, use, and own a gun. A parent cannot legally allow their 12 year old child to drive, even with parental consent. If you are underage, your parents consent does not make it legal for you to use alcohol, or tobacco.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64858111452998493402013-12-20T17:34:22.750+01:002013-12-20T17:34:22.750+01:00Mikeb, do you recognize that laws can be unjust?Mikeb, do you recognize that laws can be unjust?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22581903490123870922013-12-20T17:01:02.537+01:002013-12-20T17:01:02.537+01:00What the hell's wrong with you? Laws don'...What the hell's wrong with you? Laws don't "criminalize" people any more than guns go off by themselves. Laws and guns are not capable of taking such actions. <br /><br />Only a human person can decide to obey or disobey a law. <br /><br />Why are you gun nuts so adverse to personal responsibility when it's convenient.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.com