tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post4712793181023013811..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Florida Man Killed in an Accidental Shooting - Shooter ArrestedAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10110732432206013352014-04-17T05:56:30.816+02:002014-04-17T05:56:30.816+02:00Yes, I see Greg is so concerned about a name being...Yes, I see Greg is so concerned about a name being absolute identity and anons are just cowards because we don't know who they are. But you guys can just pick and choose a different name. Laughable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13726969439053404972014-04-16T09:54:23.177+02:002014-04-16T09:54:23.177+02:00Cheers, Mate. I was glad to find everyone still a...Cheers, Mate. I was glad to find everyone still at it after my hiatus. I'd gotten involved in other things and just dropped out of the habit of coming round here since the AWB threat was over and there were other things to be concerned about round here. Our legislature has plenty of stupid to go round.<br /><br />We traded Democrat stupid for Republican stupid. Different set of issues--same authoritarian shit. At least there's a bit less corruption at the moment (though just give them some time and a little laxity from the voters and I'm sure they'll drum up something like the Democrats in this West Tennessee have been known for--maybe not much time considering Haslam).Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-60498473450317808182014-04-15T23:16:01.396+02:002014-04-15T23:16:01.396+02:00Simon, I figured it was you--a lawyer from Tenness...Simon, I figured it was you--a lawyer from Tennessee--and I'm glad you're here.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62263820655952193152014-04-15T19:35:50.673+02:002014-04-15T19:35:50.673+02:00C'mon! No response other than that? Kurt had...C'mon! No response other than that? Kurt had already responded, so I was giving a statement in the form of Yes, He's right about a lot of cases, but Mike's still right about some others, and here's where I think the problem lies. Sure it was a little long, but short things that fit on bumper stickers rarely do the trick.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3926879262094634032014-04-15T19:33:17.945+02:002014-04-15T19:33:17.945+02:00Yes. I didn't take up the handle when I came ...Yes. I didn't take up the handle when I came back since I wasn't sure if I'd stick around very long.<br /><br />Once I decided to stick around a bit, I was curious when the connection would be made and what the trigger would be.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11966441317158014002014-04-15T15:56:43.748+02:002014-04-15T15:56:43.748+02:00Next time you agree with me put it in the first se...Next time you agree with me put it in the first sentence of the comment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-71816840840097703502014-04-15T15:55:19.793+02:002014-04-15T15:55:19.793+02:00Simon, I've been meaning to ask you, are you t...Simon, I've been meaning to ask you, are you the one who used to comment here under the name Tennessean?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34415782462314769622014-04-14T20:53:16.138+02:002014-04-14T20:53:16.138+02:00Mike,
No comments on my agreement with you or the...Mike,<br /><br />No comments on my agreement with you or the proposals about what's wrong with the system and how to fix it?Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-67896218241000964152014-04-14T20:50:21.885+02:002014-04-14T20:50:21.885+02:00Typo, Was supposed to say the ball STARTS rolling...Typo, Was supposed to say the ball STARTS rolling, meaning the case starts forward, you get arraignment, and then you head inexorably toward the trial.<br /><br />As I've said over and over, you're correct that they can add charges, and that they do all the time. I understand this perfectly well.<br /><br />The issue is, there comes a point where they can't add them--they're pretty much locked in with what they have. That is why, as I said, they could make the arrest, but they might not want to until they gather more evidence.<br /><br />This also happens all the time, and I don't know why you keep denying it.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-90455218932771068082014-04-14T04:03:07.313+02:002014-04-14T04:03:07.313+02:00Simon
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No it doesn't, they can add charg...Simon<br />??????<br />No it doesn't, they can add charges even after arresting for a different charge. It happens all the time. Don't know why you don't understand that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86170865714912337652014-04-13T18:04:34.649+02:002014-04-13T18:04:34.649+02:00Simon, if you gave me the same courtesy, I might. ...Simon, if you gave me the same courtesy, I might. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42756843208423881872014-04-12T17:58:46.178+02:002014-04-12T17:58:46.178+02:00Anonymous, when you post anonymously, we can't...Anonymous, when you post anonymously, we can't tell whether you've given us your position on things in the past or not. But I don't recall you ever taking a stand. You whine and throw mud, but you never offer your own answers. Everyone here knows my position on guns and my name.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76285652792745709742014-04-12T13:08:47.696+02:002014-04-12T13:08:47.696+02:00That's the problem with the "side" s...That's the problem with the "side" stance you guys take, you can't have it both ways. You are linked to those who discard the law as a process to solve problems. Since you use the "side" word and stance against anti gun people (which I am not) then you have to accept that you are part of a "side" that is outside the law. That's the "side" you have chosen and the "side" mentality you use. Maybe you would care to respond to some of my comments citing the same, but you don't. You don't have to, but don't expect the same from me and then make it sound like I'm not willing to engage. I'm not into the "gotcha" game you guys play with Mike. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-44365225903471438422014-04-11T19:27:13.645+02:002014-04-11T19:27:13.645+02:00Anonymous,
Maybe you'd care to comment on my ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Maybe you'd care to comment on my suggestions of where problems in our system of laws are and how we could work to change them and improve the system?Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19007251178507806102014-04-11T19:25:11.864+02:002014-04-11T19:25:11.864+02:00Maybe you can actually read the posts and respond ...Maybe you can actually read the posts and respond to what I said rather than what you assumed I said based on my first sentence.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7184268442337707902014-04-11T19:24:48.751+02:002014-04-11T19:24:48.751+02:00Mike,
Did you even read my whole post? I said I ...Mike,<br /><br />Did you even read my whole post? I said I agreed that a lot of cases are because of disparate circumstances, and I gave an analysis of why I thought this case was different than one other we've discussed.<br /><br />Then, in the next post, I said that I'd go further and say that there are also disparities caused by various factors in our system and tried to identify those factors and talk about how to fix them.<br /><br />In other words, I agreed with Kurt on the nature of many cases, and with YOU on the nature of others--though I identified various system wide reasons for the disparity in treatment rather than just one.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3813039622105945522014-04-11T19:19:09.515+02:002014-04-11T19:19:09.515+02:00Anonymous,
Like I said, they may have enough for ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Like I said, they may have enough for an arrest on the lesser charge, but once they make an arrest, the ball stops rolling. Sometimes they want to wait until they have enough to convict--especially if they have a greater charge in mind. It happens all the time in other types of cases--not sure why you can accept it there, but not here.Simon J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-88463684240956846322014-04-11T15:58:48.162+02:002014-04-11T15:58:48.162+02:00Oh, and thanks, Simon.Oh, and thanks, Simon.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25194416036231157112014-04-11T11:18:18.249+02:002014-04-11T11:18:18.249+02:00Because you are dealing with humans who not only m...Because you are dealing with humans who not only make mistakes, but make different decisions and judgments based on the same, or similar facts. <br />I have read little interest by the pro gun writers on this blog, that they are willing to work within the law to change the law. Which you know I mention all the time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-1339630712111727842014-04-11T08:42:56.284+02:002014-04-11T08:42:56.284+02:00Of course you agree with Kurt. But what he said wa...Of course you agree with Kurt. But what he said was bullshit. There are many cases that are not dissimilar yet one guy goes to jail and the other walks. What Kurt said is the disparity in treatment is due to the disparity in the particulars of the cases. I've shown countless examples of how that's often not the case at all.<br /><br />But, by all means, Simon, you go ahead and agree with Kurt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10429690851053746922014-04-11T08:39:29.229+02:002014-04-11T08:39:29.229+02:00The ones that result in arrest and conviction afte...The ones that result in arrest and conviction after a delay are not the problem. The problem ones are those that for one reason or another do not result in an arrest ever. Guys who leave their guns around for kids to find are the most obvious examples. I post a lot of them, yet you guys are reluctant to admit there's a problem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-48910787962202310932014-04-11T07:59:55.109+02:002014-04-11T07:59:55.109+02:00Mikeb, what you haven't said is what the hurry...Mikeb, what you haven't said is what the hurry is. Arrests and trials do come many times. You demand someone be arrested immediately, but the justice system goes at a deliberate pace for a reason.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10951333531445580192014-04-11T07:56:50.097+02:002014-04-11T07:56:50.097+02:00Kurt, I'm not shrieking. I'm simply point...Kurt, I'm not shrieking. I'm simply pointing out problems. Your various ways of describing that, always exaggerated and negative, are just more of your subtle personal attacks.<br /><br />The fact is, as you yourself admitted, there are some cases in which an arrest should be made and isn't.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87203780224203522482014-04-11T01:50:57.234+02:002014-04-11T01:50:57.234+02:00If you already have enough evidence to arrest for ...If you already have enough evidence to arrest for the lower charge (witnesses) why wait? Oh, I already asked that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53209641758068813902014-04-10T21:47:40.040+02:002014-04-10T21:47:40.040+02:00The last of those possibilities--lack of resources...The last of those possibilities--lack of resources--is one of the reasons that I'll even admit there is a disparity beyond just the facts of the cases in how some jurisdictions treat things. How tremendous the disparity is and what causes it I can't say without actually spending a huge amount of time researching all of the cases, but yes, there is a disparity in this, and in how all other crimes are treated. Sometimes it's racial, sometimes it's economic (as in the class of the defendant), many times it's a matter of resources, sometimes it's a matter of personal choice/politics (is the DA's pet peeve drugs, guns, sex trafficking, etc.).<br /><br />Focusing on the gun issue alone is missing the forest for the trees. Our justice system is in dire need of repair. We need a better class of DA's--men and women who are more concerned with justice being done than maintaining an 80% conviction rating for the sake of highly simplified campaigns. We need better funding for both the DA's offices and the public defenders so that the system is no longer a plea deal mill. We need better legislators writing better laws with more care for specifically defining crimes rather than writing sloppy, overbroad statutes. We need to free up resources by getting rid of stupid, victimless crimes like pot possession and some of the paperwork crimes for everything from guns to banking so that prosecutors have the time and resources to prosecute the ever loving shit out of people who run guns for criminals, who actually hurt people, who actually defraud people--E.g. take all the money being wasted applying Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank to all companies and actually put that to use prosecuting government corruption and corrupt bankers and businessmen.<br /><br />Etc. Etc. and so forth.<br /><br />How about putting some of this boundless energy into fixing the system in all these ways and more that you may think of? And yes, within this structure, you can try to fix the system so that people don't get off when they shouldn't--for all types of crimes.Simon J.noreply@blogger.com