tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post4989690250435527055..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: About What Robert Farago SaidAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52951808019467665442012-01-05T11:26:29.245+01:002012-01-05T11:26:29.245+01:00Mikeb302000,
As long as we're talking convict...Mikeb302000,<br /><br />As long as we're talking convictions for hurting someone while under the influence, I have no objection to what you said.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47224147881221234732012-01-05T09:21:56.885+01:002012-01-05T09:21:56.885+01:00I don't know about the hair testing, but what ...I don't know about the hair testing, but what about drug or alcohol convictions. Let's disqualify all people with drug and alcohol convictions. Let's reserve the right to own guns to clean and sober people, assuming that they'd be more responsible.<br /><br />How's that sound.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-44985817591984231182012-01-05T03:53:04.258+01:002012-01-05T03:53:04.258+01:00dog gone said...
"But of course you have to l...dog gone said...<br />"But of course you have to lie and exaggerate WahWah gunner, because you were caught jumping to a stupid conclusion, instead of doing your own damned homework - AGAIN."<br /><br />Oh, like you did with your 40%+10%+50% numbers? And now your Wahwah? What are you, 11? you're a sad excuse for a person with a right to vote. You're acting like a fifth grader.<br /><br />Go ahead and censor this post, too.someguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63197061388409741952012-01-05T01:12:37.204+01:002012-01-05T01:12:37.204+01:00Dog Gone,
You're the one who proposed hair sa...Dog Gone,<br /><br />You're the one who proposed hair samples for buying or carrying a gun. You started this ridiculous line of thought. If MAgunowner follows it through to its conclusion, look to yourself for the blame. You're the one who can't stand the idea of free people making choices about their lives. So have your laugh about what you think was a setup. We know what's really going on. You and Laci and the whole gun grabber crowd are clinging to desperate hope, while most of America is moving our direction.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41967041783382657982012-01-05T00:39:28.633+01:002012-01-05T00:39:28.633+01:00Pubes McGee,
I've actually changed my mind an...Pubes McGee, <br />I've actually changed my mind and now believe that if your proposed mandatory taint shaving of bald gun owners will save even one life, then it's worth it. <br /><br />That's the last word I have on the topic. You've convinced me, now let it go.MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-63059898776574199252012-01-05T00:25:56.771+01:002012-01-05T00:25:56.771+01:00WahWahh Gunner writes:
The correct explanation...WahWahh Gunner writes:<i><br /> The correct explanation is that you and Pubes McGee actually do support pube shaving as a reasonable gun control measure. Don't backtrack now. Stand up for your beliefs.</i><br /><br />The correct explanation is that is what YOU thought, and you were to stupid or too lazy to look it up.<br /><br />Laci and I were well aware all along taht pubic hair was never ever a part of drug testing procedure using hair.<br /><br />But of course you have to lie and exaggerate WahWah gunner, because you were caught jumping to a stupid conclusion, instead of doing your own damned homework - AGAIN.<br /><br />This is no different than when you opined that I made a mistake about the Mt. Rainier 'shootist' firing at four other people before he shot the Park Ranger.<br /><br />You're sloppy Mama mama Gunner. Laci and I are more precise than you are, and know much more about subjects before we post or comment on them.<br /><br />Dear Laci was kind enough to listen patiently as I tried to talk while laughing for a good two minutes earlier after setting you up -- and YOU? You exceeded my wildest expectations for jumping to the wrong conclusion about 'curly' hair, instead of looking up how drug testing worked for bald people.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14794684377820230402012-01-04T23:52:51.555+01:002012-01-04T23:52:51.555+01:00The correct explanation is that you and Pubes McGe...The correct explanation is that you and Pubes McGee actually do support pube shaving as a reasonable gun control measure. Don't backtrack now. Stand up for your beliefs.MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32965105551884390902012-01-04T23:38:57.042+01:002012-01-04T23:38:57.042+01:00Yep, MAGunner, you were set up.
And too stupid to...Yep, MAGunner, you were set up.<br /><br />And too stupid to notice it APU.<br /><br />I strongly suggest that you stay away from firearms and other potentially deadly objects as a means of self-defence given your propensity for not being able to see something tremendouly obvious coming for you.<br /><br />You are more likely to kill yourself than any possible assailant.<br /><br />I take it that a nine is higher than your IQ.Laci The Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138644349857941157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16175344743700895682012-01-04T23:14:34.121+01:002012-01-04T23:14:34.121+01:00Laci can attest that I was setting you up MaGunner...Laci can attest that I was setting you up MaGunner. He was kind enough to expand on how many police departments he personally knew of where this kind of testing was done, including Philly and NYC.<br /><br />I know that the ACLU had some issues with the intrusiveness of urine testing in the Washington DC police department back in the 90's, which was part of the impetus to switch to hair testing as less intrusive, in addition to providing a longer period of time in the resulting drug profile.<br /><br />Laci was also very patient for those minutes at a time where I was just laughing at you. He laughed too, but not quite as much as I did -- but almost!<br /><br />Because you are funny, and so damned ignorant. But I suppose the information that I set you up to jump to the wrong conclusion, when I knew better and you did not about how the testing was done shrivels up your man parts.<br /><br />Strap on another gun to some part of your anatomy; maybe it will make up for the shriveled bits.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64769535814405551322012-01-04T22:58:08.320+01:002012-01-04T22:58:08.320+01:00Laci The Dog said...
"MAGunner--do you read, ...Laci The Dog said...<br />"MAGunner--do you read, write, and understand the English language?<br /><br />Are you on any drugs which may impair your ability to think?<br /><br />Have you ever been treated for mental illness?<br /><br />Those are the standard questions for determining whether you are competent."<br /><br />Oh, I see now. It's just a simple questionnaire with some standard questions and of course, standard answers like yes and no. Oh, yeah, no prob. Hmmm... seems to me, though, that we already answer those questions when we purchase a firearm.<br /><br />Are you an unlawful user of, drugs? nope<br /><br />Have you ever be en adjudicated mentally defective? nope<br /><br />Are you an alien illegally in the United States? Nope, got My UFO driver's license right here.<br /><br />You see dog gone, I am competent!someguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-49981642891696703102012-01-04T22:38:57.111+01:002012-01-04T22:38:57.111+01:00Laci,
Are there any other classes of people that s...Laci,<br />Are there any other classes of people that should get weekly drug tests like Pubes McGee suggested? Welfare recipients, pregnant women, etc?MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32294493357080668352012-01-04T22:32:45.168+01:002012-01-04T22:32:45.168+01:00MAGunner--do you read, write, and understand the E...MAGunner--do you read, write, and understand the English language?<br /><br />Are you on any drugs which may impair your ability to think?<br /><br />Have you ever been treated for mental illness?<br /><br />Those are the standard questions for determining whether you are competent.<br /><br />The standard procedure for the hair follicle test is to take hair from the head. They only take hair from other parts of the body if there is no head hair.<br /><br />--if you were intelligent enough to read the links provided.<br /><br />But, obviously, you are not intelligent enough to be able to read or understand what is going on.<br /><br />Thank you for making an idiot of yourself.Laci The Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138644349857941157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34178213517344348832012-01-04T22:25:53.938+01:002012-01-04T22:25:53.938+01:00MAGunner wrote:
You're such a liar. So lame. ...MAGunner wrote:<br /><i><br />You're such a liar. So lame. We all know you meant yanking out pubes. Then you realized the horrific implications of this and say that's not what you meant. </i><br /><br />No, I <b>never</b> meant "yanking out pubes", because I knew that hair was collected by cutting or shaving off a single hair or two, never yanking, and NEVER pubic hair. <br /><br />There is rarely any need in any kind of testing for the hair root/follicle; the hair shaft is sufficient,so there is no point to any kind of 'yanking', LOL.<br /><br />But I was pretty sure, from your lack of understanding and your chronic failure to inform yourself on a subject before you form an opinion, that you were unaware this was done routinely for law enforcement officers, and that you'd jump to the wrong conclusion.<br /><br />You're kind of predictable that way; and I do admit to setting you up for that leap, nothing more, nothing less.<br /><br />But YOU made the decision to jump, Bwaahaaaaahaaahaa HAHhhaaaahaaa.<br /><br />I have to admit though, you jumped so damn far when you jumped to your wrong conclusion, you surprised even me.<br /><br /><i>MAgunowner said...<br /><br /> Better than you trying to harvest hair from my body, you creepy weirdo!</i><br /><br /><b><i>I</i></b>don't want your damn body hair, silly person. Although I probably have sufficient lab skills to run the testing, I have no desire to do so, and even less desire to be the person who has to clip a hair from someone- least of all YOU.<br /><br />It is however a cost-effective, useful, non-invasive way to determine someone's drug habits, it has been used for a very long time to test law enforcement officers, so it is a logical expansion to anyone who carries - open or concealed, or anyone for that matter who wants to own firearms.<br /><br />It is quick, it is relatively cheap, it is easy and noninvasive. Some of the best bang-for-the-buck in screening drug users to prevent them getting guns that there is!<br /><br />But I did laugh out loud for a long time at your expense. For that - thank you.<br /><br />Butdog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25391681589825307072012-01-04T20:39:47.501+01:002012-01-04T20:39:47.501+01:00Better than you trying to harvest hair from my bod...Better than you trying to harvest hair from my body, you creepy weirdo!MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-30852819018829648472012-01-04T20:09:28.623+01:002012-01-04T20:09:28.623+01:00"Other body hair - like men's chest hair ..."Other body hair - like men's chest hair - can be curly while the hair on their head is straight. YOU made it all about pubic hair."<br /><br />You're such a liar. So lame. We all know you meant yanking out pubes. Then you realized the horrific implications of this and say that's not what you meant. <br /><br />You made a stupid suggestion. Just admit it and move on.MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45169865989664729572012-01-04T19:52:15.949+01:002012-01-04T19:52:15.949+01:00Dog Gone,
Are you paying attention to your own wo...Dog Gone,<br /><br />Are you paying attention to your own words? This is exactly the point that I've made before--we are living in a time in which privacy is trickling and flooding away, bit by bit and wave by wave. You blithely mention giving hair samples for a job as though that's nothing to worry about, nothing to be outraged about. Perhaps to you it is. If you've accepted this loss of privacy, then I can see why hair samples for gun ownership or carry makes sense to you. I do think that you need to have a look at what you have so willingly given up, though.<br /><br />Your hatred of guns has led you to argue for all manner of foolishness, and this is just the latest example. You're letting your own obsession color your whole thinking. As I said, try selling that hair sample idea to a broader audience. You could even run for a seat in Congress, although Minnesota has enough wackos representing it already.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83543301397216630442012-01-04T19:07:53.112+01:002012-01-04T19:07:53.112+01:00Our silly commenter MAGunner writes:
Would maintai...Our silly commenter MAGunner writes:<br /><i>Would maintaining a certain length of body hair be a condition of gun ownership? You people are fucked in the head worse than you know! </i><br /><br />Actually, it is a common test among law enforcement officers; many of them seem to do just fine with relatively short hair.<br /><br />I'd bet you have underarm hair more than long enough to qualify.<br /><br />So, no, you're just ignorant as usual, and we actually know something about the topic when we write something.<br /><br />Keep this up and we'll start referring to you as MAGoofy.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27488909149696303762012-01-04T19:00:15.574+01:002012-01-04T19:00:15.574+01:00MAGunner writes: You're the one who wants to i...MAGunner writes: <i>You're the one who wants to impose an expensive and invasive system on good citizens. You're the one who brought up pubic hair to begin with.</i><br /><br />Other body hair - like men's chest hair - can be curly while the hair on their head is straight. YOU made it all about pubic hair.<br /><br />This is NOT expensive testing, it is NOT invasive testing. It IS the kind of testing routinely done on those who privately carry firearms for their job, and by police departments and other law enforcement. It is widely,and increasingly being done in the corporate world for anyone who is at or above a certain level of responsibility or who has a sensitive job for security reasons. <br /><br />So on that basis, this simply would be standardizing the kind of testing which is already being done. making the carry process more professional and safe.<br /><br />As to your unintentionally humorous example of a woman with cancer who is receiving chemotherapy and has experienced hair loss --- even under some of the more intense chemo, men and women do not usually lose all their body hair, and it is likely that they would retain enough arm or leg hair for a testing purpose,since the required amount is so very very small.<br /><br />What is NOT a scenario is having a woman strip down; rather, she would be removing less, not more clothing than that required for supplying a urine sample, and the same is true for men in that comparison.<br /><br />Geeze, do you always use such silly vulgar euphemisms when you describe the human anatomy?<br /><br />I've never known of even the most intrusive female exam that required a woman to hoist her knees up to her chest, LOL.<br /><br />I don't know how chemotherapy or radiation therapy might affect the reliability of hair drug testing, but i do know it is one of the LEAST invasive and LEAST expensive and most professional testing there is for things like gun carry.<br /><br />For those few individuals who might have cancer and need, because of their course of therapy, to have an alternative test, there are plenty available for that rare instance.<br /><br />Once again, your imagination runs wild, while your brain operates without the usual limits of information or logic.<br /><br />That makes us all wonder about how reliable your judgment is, if your thinking is this flawed.<br /><br />But god, you ARE funny as hell.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55495118708491597892012-01-04T18:42:38.298+01:002012-01-04T18:42:38.298+01:00"The hair test used for drug use does not &qu..."The hair test used for drug use does not "yank hairs from labia", instead,it takes clippings of hair from the head."<br /><br />Dipshit,<br />Would maintaining a certain length of body hair be a condition of gun ownership? You people are fucked in the head worse than you know!MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25829029435239500922012-01-04T18:34:33.884+01:002012-01-04T18:34:33.884+01:00Laci the Dog,
And the extremes to which gun grabb...Laci the Dog,<br /><br />And the extremes to which gun grabbers are willing to go never fails to astonish me. Hair samples are the kind of thing that we demand from criminal suspects (recall the arguing over O.J. Simpson and how many hairs he'd have to give up?) and perhaps people applying for high security clearance. It's ridiculous to demand the same from people who merely wish to exercise their rights.<br /><br />Dog Gone,<br /><br />Please go on a television program and advocate taking hair samples from people who want to buy a gun. The louder your voice is, the more people will be on my side.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57357906068379018232012-01-04T18:24:22.188+01:002012-01-04T18:24:22.188+01:00So let's get details on your plan... Cancer st...So let's get details on your plan... Cancer stricken woman takes the day off from work without pay and goes to the police station for her monthly hair follicle drug test to maintain her ccw permit. Technician can't find any body hair visible. Now at this point does she have to lay down and pull her knees up to her chest while they poke around down there? <br /><br />Come on, tell us what your forced drug testing plan would be.MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5417151155292647912012-01-04T18:17:41.122+01:002012-01-04T18:17:41.122+01:00In dog gone's view, having a cop yank hairs of...<i>In dog gone's view, having a cop yank hairs off of a CCW applicant's labia is reasonable gun control.<br /></i><br /><br />the amount of ignorance demonstrated by gun loons is incredible.<br /><br />The hair test used for drug use does not "yank hairs from labia", instead,it takes clippings of hair from the head.<br /><br />Quite painless and not at all intrusive.<br /><br />See this FAQ from <a href="http://www.trimegalabs.co.uk/questions/faq.php?i=0" rel="nofollow">Trimega Labs</a>, which performs the tests.Laci The Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138644349857941157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-61550469693027252852012-01-04T17:38:02.729+01:002012-01-04T17:38:02.729+01:00Sorry doggie. That's literally what you sugge...Sorry doggie. That's literally what you suggested. It's a very scary example of left wing authoritarianism. Nice try deflecting it with humor. That made it all the more creepy.MAgunownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285039868102258320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50081198234245078682012-01-04T17:32:54.735+01:002012-01-04T17:32:54.735+01:00Dog Gone,
You self righteous fool--you're the...Dog Gone,<br /><br />You self righteous fool--you're the one who proposed hair samples for getting permission to own a gun. You're the one who wants to impose an expensive and invasive system on good citizens. You're the one who brought up pubic hair to begin with.<br /><br />I really do hope that you have no control over the lives of anyone else.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37710146265585984092012-01-04T17:20:41.575+01:002012-01-04T17:20:41.575+01:00MAgunner wrote:
In dog gone's view, having a ...MAgunner wrote:<br /><br /><i>In dog gone's view, having a cop yank hairs off of a CCW applicant's labia is reasonable gun control. </i><br /><br />You are a bald women and have hairy pudenda, MAGunner? <br /><br />No, I'm not suggesting that the cops do that. But in contrast, apparently you are unfamiliar with what many women routinely and frequently endure for vanity called waxing. We remove body hair regularly and often, and it doesn't have to be painfully done - one could pluck a single hair with a tweezers, but one could for purposes of such testing just as simply shave a single hair from some easily accessible body part, like your forearm, ankle, or the back of someone's hand.<br /><br />I wouldn't subject the poor cop to having to remove pubic hair, LOL, much less a 'brazilian'.<br /><br />Our silly MAGunner then wrote:<i> You're a really fucking horrible person.</i><br />Not at all, MAG.<br />You're the one coming up with sick fantasies of strangers engaging in rough, violent depilatory behavior.<br /><br />Not me. But this is easily the best laugh out loud I've had in ages.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.com