tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post5305436331687595234..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Sebastian on Josh HorwitzAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-61021640917685542122010-06-10T15:13:05.316+02:002010-06-10T15:13:05.316+02:00Here's the mistake: the right to revolution is...<i>Here's the mistake: the right to revolution is not given or endorsed by Govt.</i><br /><br />That's because the government doesn't "give" rights. It is, like the 2nd Amendment, an inherent right.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-38719641312308307472010-06-07T21:11:11.842+02:002010-06-07T21:11:11.842+02:00Not from the huffington post, fox news, the brady ...Not from the huffington post, fox news, the brady campaign, NRA headquarters, or anybody with an obvious agenda.<br /><br />"The Economist" is broadly pro gun-control. Try typing "gun violence" into google scholar.<br /><br />Best of all, just take a break for a few weeks. It'll give you time to read my post on making effective use of statistics, and you'll come back feeling refreshed.<br /><br />Oh, and Thälmann (German spelling is hard, and my memory is bad) was the communist who ran against Hitler in '32.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56783885342487354902010-06-07T13:46:14.307+02:002010-06-07T13:46:14.307+02:00The only Stahlman I came up with was King Stahlman...The only Stahlman I came up with was King Stahlman Bail Bonds. Is that the one?<br /><br />Anyway, where do you suggest I find those uninvolved, unbiased folks who are not involved in either movement?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22577664445126908252010-06-07T02:06:54.532+02:002010-06-07T02:06:54.532+02:00No, Mike, they are just as crazy.
How about getti...No, Mike, they are just as crazy.<br /><br />How about getting some facts and interpretation from people who are not deeply involved with either movement?<br />Don't you think you might learn something?<br /><br />You're offering a false choice: Stahlman or Hitler (look it up).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-19757693580997703772010-06-06T18:52:08.472+02:002010-06-06T18:52:08.472+02:00Horwitz is a "propagandist," why because...Horwitz is a "propagandist," why because some of his income comes from anti-gun foundations? That's the old argument, isn't it?<br /><br />I suppose the pro-gun voices are free of bias and personal interest, is that the idea?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-60103614775014308222010-06-06T14:47:33.039+02:002010-06-06T14:47:33.039+02:00By Sebby's 'logic,' NRA member McVeigh...By Sebby's 'logic,' NRA member McVeigh was within his rights to bomb a daycare center.<br /><br />Of course, Sebby makes the same old tired mistake all gunloons make when talking about revolution or overthrowing tyranny. Here's the mistake: the right to revolution is not given or endorsed by Govt. It occurs only when the Govt. no longer has authority (i.e., Govt is supplanted by foreign power, etc.)<br /><br />It's not hard to prove this; consider the following--the gunloons are claiming the 2A gives them the right to overthrow the Govt. OTOH, the Constitution is pretty clear (Art.III) about treason. Is Sebby actually claiming the Constitution is so screwed up that in one part it tells citizens it can revolt against the Govt. while in another part, it calls that very action the gravest offense against the Govt?<br /><br />Consider this as well: by Sebby's logic, members of the armed services cannot be part of the "well-regulated militia" because they've sworn an oath specifically to defend the Govt. against those who would overthrow it.<br /><br />Man, I'm good.<br /><br />--JadeGoldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50692962751704794472010-06-06T14:29:57.201+02:002010-06-06T14:29:57.201+02:00"What I’m disappointed about in Horwitz’ talk...<i>"What I’m disappointed about in Horwitz’ talk is his referring to the Revolutionary War period at all. I’d rather he leave that to you pro-gun guys because using “the founders,” who were slave-owners who denied women basic human rights, as the source justification for anything just doesn’t make much sense to me."</i><br /><br />The "founders" didn't invent slavery but rather inherited it from the Europeans. As soon as they removed British rule they abolished slavery in half the country and forbid the importation of new slaves. Isn't that the "compromise" you are always wanting?FatWhiteManhttp://fatwhiteman.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83177577289720382442010-06-06T11:01:23.024+02:002010-06-06T11:01:23.024+02:00He is neither qualified nor trustworthy enough for...He is neither qualified nor trustworthy enough for his opinion on this matter to be worth anything. <br />This is just Limbaugh-level punditry.<br /><br />Try getting your information from somebody who isn't a propagandist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com