tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post5593435957701868638..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Nevada Could Soon Put Background Checks on the BallotAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-9174339735739806512014-12-12T19:58:04.042+01:002014-12-12T19:58:04.042+01:00As you typically do SS master liar, I will just cl...As you typically do SS master liar, I will just claim that survey is false and you are full of shit. End of discussion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-66024687995935772152014-12-11T16:14:13.682+01:002014-12-11T16:14:13.682+01:00I just came across this new study released just to...<i>I just came across this new study released just today that suggests that support for gun control has now fallen behind the belief that gun rights are important.</i><br /><br />SSG, I found this to be a particularly enlightening bit of information from the Pew Poll:<br /><br /><i>Over the past two years, blacks’ views on this measure have changed dramatically. Currently, 54% of blacks say gun ownership does more to protect people than endanger personal safety, nearly double the percentage saying this in December 2012 (29%).</i><br /><br />It's starting to look as if the "gun rights advocates are overwhelmingly old, fat, white men" myth is going to have to go on life support. Pull the plug, I say.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25474901980795636632014-12-11T04:47:18.309+01:002014-12-11T04:47:18.309+01:00Hey Anon,
I just came across this new study re...Hey Anon,<br /> I just came across this new study released just today that suggests that support for gun control has now fallen behind the belief that gun rights are important,<br /><br />"For the first time in more than two decades of Pew Research Center surveys, there is more support for gun rights than gun control. Currently, 52% say it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns, while 46% say it is more important to control gun ownership."<br /><br />"The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Dec. 3-7 among 1,507 adults, also finds a shift in attitudes about whether gun ownership in this country does more to protect people or put people’s safety at risk. Nearly six-in-ten Americans (57%) say gun ownership does more to protect people from becoming victims of crime, while 38% say it does more to endanger personal safety. In the days after Newtown, 48% said guns do more to protect people and 37% said they placed people at risk."<br /><br />http://www.people-press.org/2014/12/10/growing-public-support-for-gun-rights/ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-4070739353112420322014-12-10T22:43:11.506+01:002014-12-10T22:43:11.506+01:00"No master liar, the stats show ownership WAS..."No master liar, the stats show ownership WAS in the 50's now much lower."<br /><br /> And now it seems to be recovering. <br /><br />"The slow drop-off of households owning guns has ended, rebounding in a new poll to 39 percent, up five points from the latest survey."<br /><br />"That is a sizable uptick from the four-decade drop in household ownership charted by the authoritative General Social Survey. It pegged household gun ownership at 50 percent in the 1970s, 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s, and down to 35 percent in the 2000s. The latest 2012 statistics put the share of households with guns at 34 percent."<br /><br />http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2541876<br /><br /> Lets look at a national level organization that teaches shooting skills that has also experienced rapid growth, Project Appleseed,<br /><br />"Project Appleseed is an apolitical[1] rifle marksmanship training program that focuses on teaching traditional rifle marksmanship from standing, sitting/kneeling, and prone positions over a two day weekend shooting clinic for what is termed an "Appleseed". It is one of the major activities of The Revolutionary War Veterans Association (RWVA), a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that teaches and promotes traditional rifle marksmanship, while also teaching American heritage and history with the intent of encouraging people to become active civically."<br /><br />"In 2008, Appleseed had nearly 4,000 attendees. In 2009, there were more than 450 scheduled Appleseed events that taught 10,000 shooters. In 2010, 32,000 had been taught to shoot by the end of the year.[8] In 2012, there were over 1,000 Appleseeds held, by which time over 40,000 shooters had been taught. In addition, a select cadre of Appleseed instructors from across the nation gathered at Fort Stewart, GA and taught a deploying Army unit in marksmanship skills in 2012. By late 2014, over 70,000 shooters had been taught."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Appleseed<br /><br /> <br /><br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41128990935705205662014-12-10T19:23:18.634+01:002014-12-10T19:23:18.634+01:00No master liar, the stats show ownership WAS in th...No master liar, the stats show ownership WAS in the 50's now much lower. It's a fact reported by all news sources that there have been gun buying sprees after every school shooting, next lie SS.....Your ASSumptions are proving you to be a lying ASS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36680851866017120652014-12-10T14:57:45.416+01:002014-12-10T14:57:45.416+01:00"The overall trend of gun home ownership is w..."The overall trend of gun home ownership is way down. The recent trend is down. The up and down trend recently reflects the school shootings, and every time a school shooting happens knee jerk idiots go out and buy a gun."<br /><br /> Anon, for some reason you choose to ignore the data from this poll that until now has been the big evidence that gun ownership is declining. Now its showing an increase. You also seem to want to ignore the other evidence I supplied to support my belief that gun ownership is growing.<br /> The growth of school shooting leagues is evidence that counters the assertion that the shooting sports is dying out as the average age increases. Minnesota is seeing rapid growth of these activities in schools. And apparently so is its neighbor, Wisconsin,<br /><br />"The 2012 event marked the 40th anniversary of the shoot. A record 890 shooters participated, up from 700 in 2011."<br /><br />http://www.jsonline.com/sports/outdoors/more-teens-lured-by-trap-se5i8h3-154571915.html<br /><br /> As for your assertion that the increase is due to recent school shootings. I'm assuming you're referring to calls for further gun control legislation causing a surge in sales.<br /> You guys need to get your stories straight because I keep hearing people saying the increase in gun sales are just current owners buying more guns. If that was the case, then the number of households with guns wouldn't increase. Now you're saying that it is causing an increase. Which one is it Anon?ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-81966251919470112022014-12-09T23:12:19.398+01:002014-12-09T23:12:19.398+01:00Like you do, Kurt?
I'm not the one whining ab...<i>Like you do, Kurt?</i><br /><br />I'm not the one whining about you "pretending you don't follow my thinking." Besides, now you <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-gunfight-in-cyberspace.html?showComment=1418149845692#c8643843063345679897" rel="nofollow">claim to have known all along</a> that I wasn't serious about the sledgehammer thing.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-33909639519702519302014-12-09T20:51:54.590+01:002014-12-09T20:51:54.590+01:00The overall trend of gun home ownership is way dow...The overall trend of gun home ownership is way down. The recent trend is down. The up and down trend recently reflects the school shootings, and every time a school shooting happens knee jerk idiots go out and buy a gun. Your description of the poll doesn't match the poll numbers. Why do you have to lie to make a point SS?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-88082920390434918242014-12-09T20:28:22.850+01:002014-12-09T20:28:22.850+01:00"I don't think so."
Thank you f..."I don't think so."<br /><br /> Thank you for posting the link to the poll I mentioned Mike. And as you can see, gun ownership has started to rise. And in that post is my comment regarding the growth in shooting sports in schools. <br /> Just think, over six thousand high school students learning an Olympic shooting sport this year (my son being one), and I'm sure the schools will try to grow their programs to accommodate those that had to be turned away due to lack of space.<br /> It will be interesting to see if the upward trend continues when the poll is conducted again next year. But with the growing youth interest in the shooting sports, I wonder how well the polls reach these youth.<br /> Has anyone else seen evidence of youth involvement in their respective states? <br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-69791419112952734292014-12-09T19:38:48.454+01:002014-12-09T19:38:48.454+01:00"Except that you've recently posted a rec..."Except that you've recently posted a recent poll that now shows gun ownership increasing."<br /><br />I don't think so.<br /><br />http://mikeb302000.blogspot.it/2014/11/fascinating-gallup-polls.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82891191593389741852014-12-09T19:34:36.316+01:002014-12-09T19:34:36.316+01:00"I respond to what you say. If that differs f..."I respond to what you say. If that differs from what you mean, the obvious solution would be for you to start saying what you mean."<br /><br />Like you do, Kurt? Like you did with that stupid remark about the sledgehammer to the head?<br /><br />Your telling me to say what I mean just a couple days after you made that stupid joke makes you a hypocrite, Kurt. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65964500395611118572014-12-09T14:44:14.291+01:002014-12-09T14:44:14.291+01:00My Bias Is Always Criminal is the one with the Boz...My Bias Is Always Criminal is the one with the Bozo button on his desk. His comments scream Bozo constantly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85293332639642398462014-12-08T22:49:53.461+01:002014-12-08T22:49:53.461+01:00"The fact is the number of gun owners and the..."The fact is the number of gun owners and the number of homes with guns are both declining."<br /><br /> Except that you've recently posted a recent poll that now shows gun ownership increasing. And of course there is the very steady growth of those acquiring carry permits. In fact I've personally contributed to that by gifting a friend with a carry permit class. <br /> And as I've mentioned in previous posts, other evidence of this growth range from the expansion of indoor ranges to the rapid growth of high school trap leagues.<br /> And while there have recently been a number of states to adopt shall issue permits systems such as Wisconsin and Illinois, have you seen any states going from shall issue to may issue? Neither have I.<br /> Bleak indeed. Future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86349138533152955712014-12-08T19:19:49.627+01:002014-12-08T19:19:49.627+01:00"The future of gun rights looks bleak"
..."The future of gun rights looks bleak"<br /><br />Especially when (as proven by the gun loons who post comments here) those advocating the pro gun position are liars who could care less about human life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35809737566104439332014-12-08T19:09:39.028+01:002014-12-08T19:09:39.028+01:00Keep pretending you don't follow my thinking a...<i>Keep pretending you don't follow my thinking and drag this out as much as you can. That's what you do when you have nothing of substance to say.</i><br /><br />I respond to what you say. If that differs from what you mean, the obvious solution would be for you to start saying what you mean.<br /><br /><i>The future of gun rights looks bleak. Face it.</i><br /><br />I suppose we'll see. I have no doubt that I'll have just as many guns (particularly the politically incorrect ones) when I die as I have now--and will quite likely have several more, and will routinely carry at least one when out and about.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84750460430140205392014-12-08T17:58:20.943+01:002014-12-08T17:58:20.943+01:00That's right, Kurt. Nit pick my comment into t...That's right, Kurt. Nit pick my comment into the Land of Tedium.<br /><br />Of course everyone has something to lose with you gun nuts getting your way. But most non-gun owners just think the bad thing will never happen to them. They tend to be apathetic. Gun owners on the other hand are naturally into gun rights and show up at the voting booth.<br /><br />Keep pretending you don't follow my thinking and drag this out as much as you can. That's what you do when you have nothing of substance to say.<br /><br />The other implication to ssgmarkcr's point would be that the surveys which show support for gun control are wrong. I don't think that's the case except maybe in some of the really extreme cases. The fact is the number of gun owners and the number of homes with guns are both declining. You gun owners are owning more and more guns. How many have you acquired in the last year - in the last 5 years?<br /><br />The future of gun rights looks bleak. Face it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86934035784850270492014-12-07T21:00:18.833+01:002014-12-07T21:00:18.833+01:00Anon while it makes no sense you get a Bozo button...Anon while it makes no sense you get a Bozo button for being the slightest bit imaginative congrats...."My Bias Is Always Criminal"<br /><br /><br />MBIAC......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21094784467497950792014-12-07T16:56:12.544+01:002014-12-07T16:56:12.544+01:00Gun owners on the other hand are more passionate f...<i>Gun owners on the other hand are more passionate for the simple reason they have something to lose.</i><br /><br />Is it your contention, then, that "gun control" advocates do <i>not</i> have anything to lose? That's odd--I keep hearing that when more restrictive gun laws are not passed, we <i>all</i> lose, in that "gun violence" that would otherwise have been significantly reduced, instead continues unabated.<br /><br />So you <i>know</i> that's bullshit, eh?<br /><br />Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23354740594154458592014-12-07T16:16:31.106+01:002014-12-07T16:16:31.106+01:00"What do you think Mike? If this goes to a po..."What do you think Mike? If this goes to a popular vote and it also comes in much lower than the poll numbers, will you still insist that different polls have different accuracies?"<br /><br />I thought I responded to this already - maybe that was on another thread.<br /><br />The actual vote will always show a smaller percentage in favor of gun control than the surveys. Many people are too apathetic to bother voting but if asked they agree with the gun control side. Gun owners on the other hand are more passionate for the simple reason they have something to lose.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40371642043225044992014-12-07T16:13:10.351+01:002014-12-07T16:13:10.351+01:00"SS again denying polls that have been consis..."SS again denying polls that have been consistent for a long time."<br /><br /> And we've now begun to learn that the polls are likely consistently wrong. Washington just had a straight up vote with no other issues to get in the way and the 80 to 90 percent number miraculously turned into just under 60%. <br /> <br />"Again you try to claim the people's will is something we know it is not just because some slimy politician was not put out of office."<br /><br /> The ways that the people express their will to politicians is to either voice them directly in the form or correspondence, or failing that through the election process.<br /> Governor Sandoval must have had some other indication that he was on politically safe ground when he vetoed the legislation. Or perhaps he was acting solely on his personal beliefs. <br /> Whatever his reasons, it would seem that the voters of the state are ok with his actions since they not only reelected him by a wide margin, they also voted in Republican majorities in the state Senate and House. <br /> I assume you're referring to Governor Sandoval as a criminal being rhetorical, since he hasn't done anything illegal. Iff you live there you're quite welcome to show your displeasure by voting against him.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24470527460891189612014-12-06T18:57:46.239+01:002014-12-06T18:57:46.239+01:00SS again denying polls that have been consistent f...SS again denying polls that have been consistent for a long time. People don't usually oust someone for a mistake, but keep doing it and they will. Again you try to claim the people's will is something we know it is not just because some slimy politician was not put out of office. I don't know why people elect criminals, but they do and it doesn't mean they are no longer criminals. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55594092895181122352014-12-05T16:55:10.406+01:002014-12-05T16:55:10.406+01:00My Bias Is Always CriminalMy Bias Is Always CriminalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-18896007584602252642014-12-04T23:27:02.634+01:002014-12-04T23:27:02.634+01:00"I shutter to think were America would be if ..."I shutter to think were America would be if over the more than 250 years their leaders went against the will of the people."<br /><br /> Anon, he didn't act against the will of the voters, he merely didn't act using that poll as an indicator. Keep in mind there are two legal remedies for voters to remove someone who doesn't act the way they want.<br /> The first of course is to remove him during the regular election by popular vote. And the second would be to recall the governor as allowed by their State Constitution. Just like they did with two state legislators in Colorado recently.<br /> He was reelected by a healthy majority in the local election, which would indicate that the voters are ok with him keeping his job. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-15534262813171058722014-12-04T18:38:18.642+01:002014-12-04T18:38:18.642+01:00I shutter to think were America would be if over t...I shutter to think were America would be if over the more than 250 years their leaders went against the will of the people. You must be stupid, or lying to think we built a great country with politicians refusing to act on behalf of the will of the people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-7369032782117530282014-12-02T08:48:34.325+01:002014-12-02T08:48:34.325+01:00What does MBIAC stand for?What does MBIAC stand for?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.com