tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post5830078271549107455..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: The Strange Silence on the Gun IssueAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-18344738713133803472012-10-10T10:52:03.644+02:002012-10-10T10:52:03.644+02:00I haven't been shown anything convincing. I r...I haven't been shown anything convincing. I repeat my response to Bill.<br /><br />"That might be true if guns were the ONLY factor. No one said they were."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-10849804672526631252012-10-08T16:03:32.127+02:002012-10-08T16:03:32.127+02:00Mikeb, you've been shown that guns or no guns ...Mikeb, you've been shown that guns or no guns doesn't change the suicide rate. Why do you keep harping on guns?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20497550180648716742012-10-08T15:34:14.322+02:002012-10-08T15:34:14.322+02:00mikeb, thank you for your detailed and informative...mikeb, thank you for your detailed and informative response. Now I think I understand the correlation between gun ownership and suicide, or not.Bill Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14372322870114949570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85629217954730995672012-10-08T13:46:46.257+02:002012-10-08T13:46:46.257+02:00That might be true if guns were the ONLY factor. ...That might be true if guns were the ONLY factor. No one said they were.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-59292316505671282772012-10-07T18:05:23.677+02:002012-10-07T18:05:23.677+02:00Sure, you love the surveys that the Brady Bunch ta...Sure, you love the surveys that the Brady Bunch talks about, but the only ones that matter are elections. Consistently and across most of the country, politicians support gun rights. If the people wanted anything different, they'd elect candidates who are on your side. They don't, and regardless of how much you spin things, that's because they don't want more gun control.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65077010548387680752012-10-07T15:21:21.615+02:002012-10-07T15:21:21.615+02:00Greg, the only way that's true is by tricking ...Greg, the only way that's true is by tricking them into answering a loaded question. In a fair survey, most people, even most gun owners do want more gun control.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89870637290155581742012-10-07T14:41:25.117+02:002012-10-07T14:41:25.117+02:00As I've pointed out here, there is no correlat...As I've pointed out <a href="http://wildbillbaldwin.blogspot.com/2012/05/suicide-gun-ownership-and-rates.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, there is no correlation between gun availability and suicides. The US has 3 times more gun owners than Canada, but CA has nearly the same suicide rate. If guns were a factor, the US would have a suicide rate three times that of CA.<br /><br />Also, I don't see how accidents or suicides can be addressed legislatively, and that's what you're asking the president to address.Bill Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14372322870114949570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-73158336157435099362012-10-07T05:12:21.542+02:002012-10-07T05:12:21.542+02:00Accidents are less than a thousand a year, and sui...Accidents are less than a thousand a year, and suicide is a choice.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5802355273245943342012-10-07T02:37:22.193+02:002012-10-07T02:37:22.193+02:00Bill, you fail to add in suicides and accidents. ...Bill, you fail to add in suicides and accidents. But go ahead and keep deflating those numbers...Baldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41360799184238788512012-10-06T15:56:17.934+02:002012-10-06T15:56:17.934+02:00There's nothing odd about it. Mikeb, we'v...There's nothing odd about it. Mikeb, we've explained this to you before. Americans by large margins don't want more gun control. When you accept that, things won't mystify you any more.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42809249174712245472012-10-06T12:23:16.348+02:002012-10-06T12:23:16.348+02:00"With 100K shootings a year..."
Actuall...<i>"With 100K shootings a year..."</i><br /><br />Actually it's about 64,816* criminal uses of guns that lead to injury and death, but keep padding those numbers.<br /><br />*(53,738 non fatal assaults and 11,078 homicides)<br /><br />I wish there was a presidential debate about guns, too. Romney will say "I support the 2A and the right of the people to protect themselves"<br /><br />Obama will say "I support an 'assault weapons' ban"<br /><br />Who do you think will lose votes?Bill Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14372322870114949570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50116676271022392772012-10-06T08:11:07.812+02:002012-10-06T08:11:07.812+02:00Odd? Sadly, no. Wrong? Absolutely. Our elected lea...Odd? Sadly, no. Wrong? Absolutely. Our elected leaders are gutless on the issue of gun violence. <br /><br />It is time they answered the question, "With 100K shootings a year, what do you intend to do to reduce gun violence?"<br /><br />My blog post on this: http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2012/10/what-wasnt-asked-in-first-presidential.htmlBaldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.com