tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post6577676100656875171..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Michigan Concealed CarryAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-41814289369344527832011-08-04T20:08:05.488+02:002011-08-04T20:08:05.488+02:00Cowpat, so you aren't going to give us your se...Cowpat, so you aren't going to give us your seabee class number?<br /><br />There indeed was a USMC base at Đông Hà. The real Seabee action was at Dong Xoai which went from 10 June 1965 until 20 June 1965. The fact that you spelt it as DongHa made me wonder.<br /><br />A firefighter-paramedic is telling me what cops think. Maybe in the people you patch up. Indeed, cowpat.<br /><br />Anyway, if you were a seabee, why not construction?<br /><br />Actually, Jerry, I was going on my memory, but did not serve on Submarines (or the Navy). That's why I said AN-BQ7.<br /><br />And you have the Oberon class Submarine correct. HMS Oppossum was S19. I am familiar with Onyx (S21) and Oppossum. As I said, trick question since they are diesel subs--not as sexy as nukes.<br /><br />I do have to question someone who says that they serve in a staff position since such as statement could be taken that you are presenting official Navy policy.Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-77261229965605560912011-08-04T11:15:39.032+02:002011-08-04T11:15:39.032+02:00Cowman said, "I stand by my statements and th...Cowman said, <i>"I stand by my statements and the MSP shows that only appox 2% of CHL holders have negative contact with law enforcement. Are we to believe that the 16 counties that didn't report are more lawless that the others?"</i><br /><br />I think you've got something wrong there. Your 2% was derived by the reported incidents divided by the total. If more counties reported their problems that wouldn't change the total number but it sure would change the 2% result.<br /><br />In any case, it's TOO MANY. That's my point.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89520078431969384592011-08-04T03:55:45.265+02:002011-08-04T03:55:45.265+02:00And I commend you for busting this POS imposter bu...And I commend you for busting this POS imposter but like I said, you can believe me or not, I don't fucking care.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79194410755143859262011-08-04T03:55:06.999+02:002011-08-04T03:55:06.999+02:00Regardless if it were Nam or elsewhere, I think co...Regardless if it were Nam or elsewhere, I think combat vets who were in hairy situations have damn well earned a special respect.<br /><br />You might keep that in mind regarding Laci. Don't assume when you don't know about someone's service.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83355663109933190812011-08-04T03:53:49.541+02:002011-08-04T03:53:49.541+02:00Like I said, I'm going by what my experience i...Like I said, I'm going by what my experience is with the street cops I interacted with during my 35 yrs in the fire service and my daughters experience.<br />I do owe you an apology, I thought we were talking about WI. My bad.<br />As far as MN. I would expect the same to be true as Las Vegas PD.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40712775958383951572011-08-04T03:52:46.403+02:002011-08-04T03:52:46.403+02:00Cowabunga, I alluded to, as you put it, something ...Cowabunga, I alluded to, as you put it, something that occurred recently on another blog entirely, where both Laci and I comment.<br /><br />Someone using the blognomen Sepp misrepresented himself as a combat vet, was busted for it - in part by Laci, btw - and he admitted after being put on the spot that he lied. My contribution was to research legislative efforts to make doing so a crime.<br /><br />I don't find it insulting to anyone to ask an honest question about their service. I accuse you of nothing; exposing people like Sepp for trying to claim respect for service that they didn't deserve benefits everyone.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50966199878335830322011-08-04T03:49:29.151+02:002011-08-04T03:49:29.151+02:00I know Aussies served in Nam, were first class war...I know Aussies served in Nam, were first class warriors, don't know about the Brits, met some S. Koreans there also, fierce fighterscowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47717355270557759792011-08-04T03:48:21.800+02:002011-08-04T03:48:21.800+02:00Btw, cowpie, I am still waiting for an answer to m...Btw, cowpie, I am still waiting for an answer to my question. I thought it was a very good question to ask.<br /><br />I notice that you still can't produce anything other than anecdotal support for your contentions about law enforcement and concealed carry, while I produced documentation of entire police organizations, including rank and file beat / street cops, coming out against it.<br /><br />Still waiting.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52717872141004484222011-08-04T03:47:03.056+02:002011-08-04T03:47:03.056+02:00Bullshit, you alluded to it. Like I said, believe ...Bullshit, you alluded to it. Like I said, believe me or not, I don't fucking care.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24046630117416967602011-08-04T03:45:11.703+02:002011-08-04T03:45:11.703+02:00I'm not accusing anyone of anything; I'm j...I'm not accusing anyone of anything; I'm just asking a straight up question, reasonable for the information you've offered.<br /><br />I would expect you to appreciate it when someone makes an effort to fact check, pointing out the poseurs from those who really have served and deserve the respect for it - doubly so for those who have seen combat.<br /><br />Laci is a Brit, so therefore has not served in the U.S. military; but he is a UK combat vet, if you happen to care.<br /><br />As to my serving in Nam, you are somewhat older than I am.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27491005354844235742011-08-04T03:44:17.599+02:002011-08-04T03:44:17.599+02:00I will give you this and this only
We deployed to ...I will give you this and this only<br />We deployed to Chu Lai in 1969 but myself and 5 others were TDY to MCB-5 at Dong Ha and then detached to Con Thien to fortify the Marine base. You can believe me or not, don't really fucking care.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65488706791174377952011-08-04T03:30:57.541+02:002011-08-04T03:30:57.541+02:00BTW Laci, it is Dong Ha, were you there? I think n...BTW Laci, it is Dong Ha, were you there? I think not.<br />Hell, were you even in Vietnam? How much combat time do you have?<br />Dog, were you there? How much combat tours do you have? To practically accuse someone of lying about theier military service is vile and you fucking owe me an apology which I suspect I will never see.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-15990752197257115542011-08-04T02:50:02.007+02:002011-08-04T02:50:02.007+02:00If you are a member of Bloomie's MAIG, you are...If you are a member of Bloomie's MAIG, you are 10 times more likely to be a felon than if you are a Michigan CHL holder.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51070196527715422062011-08-04T02:41:37.655+02:002011-08-04T02:41:37.655+02:00Oh and dog, I don't have to prove a fucking th...Oh and dog, I don't have to prove a fucking thing to you or anyone else, Believe me or not, I don't give a rats ass, Have a good life and fuck offcowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11706511791734758042011-08-04T02:38:52.775+02:002011-08-04T02:38:52.775+02:00I don't much give a shit if you think I misrep...I don't much give a shit if you think I misrepresented my military creds. I was there, I know what I endured during my tour and you can go fuck yourself.<br />Laci, We called it DongHa but I spent most of my tour detached to the Marines at Con Thien and I really don't give a flying fuck if you believe me or not, I spent 35 years as a Firefighter/Paramedic so I know a little bit about what street cops think and my daughter is a cop, I never said all carriers are good people. Reading is fundementalcowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-18922641907582291032011-08-04T02:23:11.297+02:002011-08-04T02:23:11.297+02:00Laci:
I suppose you are referring to HMS Opposum ...Laci:<br /><br />I suppose you are referring to HMS Opposum (Oberon class)<br /><br />The proper designation is AN-BQQ5 which was found on the 637 and 688 classes. I assume you mean the AN-BQQ6 found on Trident boats. You are assuming that i served on an SSN. By the way you could have found this on google as did I but I was just refreshing my memory because i haven't done undersea warfare since 1996jerryofvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02505743221755443719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22604835266927590462011-08-04T01:02:39.546+02:002011-08-04T01:02:39.546+02:00Cowpie, what was your seabee class number? Just w...Cowpie, what was your seabee class number? Just wondering. I've seen a few blog comments where someone misrepresented their combat credentials.<br /><br />Laci is particularly good at exposing them...dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54249989377052220772011-08-04T00:05:36.504+02:002011-08-04T00:05:36.504+02:00Jerry, where does one find an AN-BQ5? An-BQ7? What...Jerry, where does one find an AN-BQ5? An-BQ7? What is the difference between these units?<br /><br />What was the Opossum? Yes, that last question might be slightly unfair, but you may be familiar with other forces.Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3413859137669130492011-08-03T23:59:13.365+02:002011-08-03T23:59:13.365+02:00DongaHa, Cowpat?
Do you mean Dong Xoai?DongaHa, Cowpat?<br /><br />Do you mean Dong Xoai?Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26687344058346722052011-08-03T23:21:28.148+02:002011-08-03T23:21:28.148+02:00OK, Cowpat.
You were in the military, not the pol...OK, Cowpat.<br /><br />You were in the military, not the police. What do you know about patrolling in a large East Coast city? Or for that matter pretty much anywhere in the USA where an armed confrontation is highly likely due to the amount of firearms in circulation?<br /><br />Are you going to tell me that you think everyone carrying is a "good guy"? You for real?<br /><br />With all the legal concealed carry folk out there, doesn't make it easier for the illegal carriers to carry?<br /><br />I can't believe that someone who claims combat experience would condone making a situation worse for someone to have to judge who is safe and who is unsafe.<br /><br />Or did every bush in Nam look safe to you?Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76044787837651343412011-08-03T22:36:20.878+02:002011-08-03T22:36:20.878+02:00The same thing goes with the upper mgnt at LVMPD, ...The same thing goes with the upper mgnt at LVMPD, at one time they were street cops but now their mgmt and most now do not support CCW laws but the street cops do and I suspect that the same is true in MN. And the law would not have been enacted if the citizens didn't want it so your bullshit of conservatives agenda is just that, bullshit. Once again, I stand by my statement, why haven't you answered my ? about repeal yet. Or is this another conservative conspiracy?cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28804278612790756232011-08-03T22:29:50.449+02:002011-08-03T22:29:50.449+02:00jerryofva
howdy, navy vet here also
U.S, Navy Seab...jerryofva<br />howdy, navy vet here also<br />U.S, Navy Seabees<br />40th Batt.<br />Bravo Co.<br />DongaHa<br />Republic of Vietnam<br />1969-1970<br />Retired from Reserves in 1998 with 30 in as an SCPO<br />was an Equip. Op.cowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3484787818325227692011-08-03T22:27:08.521+02:002011-08-03T22:27:08.521+02:00The conceal carry legislation in MN was challenged...The conceal carry legislation in MN was challenged, AND overturned. <br /><br />It exists now, not because of popularity, but because of a conservative agenda that forced it through.<br /><br />You still can only offer your own unsubstantiated anecdotes.<br /><br />The sources I cited did not only involve upper level law enforcement - ALL of whom came up through the ranks from street cops, and therefore have street cop cred. The testimony included plenty of street level cops as well, and expressed the viwes of rank and file police organizations. Also various levels, state and local/municipal prosecuting attorneys.<br /><br />Would you like a towel, cowman, to wipe off your own manure? You appear to be covered in it.<br /><br />Put up something better than your own limited, unverifiable, biased conversations, or back down.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-9861292618559894542011-08-03T22:16:17.332+02:002011-08-03T22:16:17.332+02:00Jade:
Please list your maritime experience:
Here...Jade:<br /><br />Please list your maritime experience:<br /><br />Here is mine:<br /><br />Submarine Force Pacific<br />Office of the Chief of Naval Operations<br />Naval Air Systems Command<br />Currently on the Staff of the Secretary of Defense.jerryofvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02505743221755443719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-81213932360663210362011-08-03T22:10:47.881+02:002011-08-03T22:10:47.881+02:00If conceal carry is such a big problem, as you and...If conceal carry is such a big problem, as you and others claim, why has not one, REPEAT, not one state that has CCW laws moved to repeal such law?cowmannoreply@blogger.com