tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post6900339506972042293..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Helping Ex-cons Getting Back into SocietyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14502244873869809962015-12-03T08:21:39.505+01:002015-12-03T08:21:39.505+01:00If you'll read my comments Anon, I didn't ...If you'll read my comments Anon, I didn't mention that one either. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-71204664885469390142015-12-02T19:17:17.157+01:002015-12-02T19:17:17.157+01:00Again, you include the right to an attorney.
Just ...Again, you include the right to an attorney.<br />Just like any dictatorship. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86595056229512299282015-11-30T10:31:24.453+01:002015-11-30T10:31:24.453+01:00Anon, I was referring to the current trend to give...Anon, I was referring to the current trend to give voting rights to felons. There are many rights you lose by becoming a felon. Or at least you used to. Possessing firearms, running for elected office, voting, serving on a jury. If you had paid attention to the discussion, you would have recognized that those were the rights I was referring to. <br /> I'm fairly sure you did see that. That's ok, because I'm pretty sure everyone else here got my intent.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-4107167985441337782015-11-29T21:11:39.723+01:002015-11-29T21:11:39.723+01:00" By the way, I also feel that if you lose yo..." By the way, I also feel that if you lose your rights due to a felony conviction, you lose them all."<br />Just quoting you SS. "All" includes the right to an attorney. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13635380687034064512015-11-21T07:44:21.615+01:002015-11-21T07:44:21.615+01:00"So according to SS one would lose their righ..."So according to SS one would lose their right to have an attorney to defend oneself. Military killers do make good dictators."<br /><br /> Well Anon, I'd much prefer everyone having all of their rights as opposed to everyone losing them all. There has been recent movement towards eliminating the stigma of a felon's status by giving them back their voting rights and now apparently not allowing potential employers, at least by the government to ask about a prior criminal record. <br /> I grew up in a time where everyone lost the right to vote and possess firearms. So if we're going to restore rights to felons after they pay their debt to society with the mindset that they are starting off on a clean slate, then so be it. Then we resore ALL rights. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54426094617668386612015-11-20T19:29:09.305+01:002015-11-20T19:29:09.305+01:00So according to SS one would lose their right to h...So according to SS one would lose their right to have an attorney to defend oneself. Military killers do make good dictators. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21450537571290014872015-11-20T17:20:09.613+01:002015-11-20T17:20:09.613+01:00ss, call these things felonies or not, my one-stri...ss, call these things felonies or not, my one-strike-you're-out rules would include those who use pot as well as alcohol while owning guns. I suppose some discretion might be applicable for the guy with a six-pack in the car who's on his way home planning to lock up the guns in a safe before imbibing. As you know, I call him irresponsible, but perhaps he skirts the serious sanctions. In theory, now that pot is becoming legal, it could be treated the same.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-73112805088636188362015-11-15T17:46:51.870+01:002015-11-15T17:46:51.870+01:00YOu're right. I thought of it after writing th...<i>YOu're right. I thought of it after writing that comment. </i><br /><br />Great--you show a glimmer of rationality for once, and I talk you out of it. Not my best move.<br /><br /><i>White collar crimes should not.</i><br /><br />So a life sentence of forcible disarmament is appropriate for those who commit the victimless "crime" of possessing forbidden plant matter, but not for heartless predators who swindle old ladies out of their life savings?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32963203503332664092015-11-15T15:18:31.429+01:002015-11-15T15:18:31.429+01:00Mike, in two states so far, pot is now pretty much...Mike, in two states so far, pot is now pretty much treated the same as alcohol in the eyes of the law. And in most of the other states, it's right up there with a traffic ticket for possession. <br /> So how do you justify treating it as the equivalent of a felony resulting in the permenant loss of rights? By the way, I also feel that if you lose your rights due to a felony conviction, you lose them all. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47751282727492770022015-11-15T14:05:41.933+01:002015-11-15T14:05:41.933+01:00YOu're right. I thought of it after writing t...YOu're right. I thought of it after writing that comment. I'm not ok with gun owners smoking pot, so yes, possession or use of pot should result in the loss of rights. White collar crimes should not.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36193709870703025212015-11-06T17:30:16.485+01:002015-11-06T17:30:16.485+01:00I never thought very highly of taking someone'...<i>I never thought very highly of taking someone's gun rights for a white collar crime or <b>for possession of a little pot</b>.</i><br /><br />You're OK with gun owners having weed now? When did <i>that</i> happen?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58110231315602648232015-11-06T17:17:10.624+01:002015-11-06T17:17:10.624+01:00I never thought very highly of taking someone'...I never thought very highly of taking someone's gun rights for a white collar crime or for possession of a little pot. So, within limits, I agree with you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51550655477105436892015-11-04T17:37:18.784+01:002015-11-04T17:37:18.784+01:00I can remember way back when the stigma and loss o...I can remember way back when the stigma and loss of rights was spoken of in hopes of it being a deterrent. Be that as it may, if we are going to remove the stigma and restore rights, then we should restore ALL of them, to include Second Amendment rights. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27192008705313647132015-11-04T07:45:49.103+01:002015-11-04T07:45:49.103+01:00Hat tip to Angela Davis.Hat tip to Angela Davis.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.com