tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post8923859712451344082..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: The Minutemen Turn to MurderAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-31579920005015954122009-06-23T21:03:34.285+02:002009-06-23T21:03:34.285+02:00Interesting that the folks from IggyDonnelley stop...Interesting that the folks from IggyDonnelley stopped in here, made a few ignorant generalizations, and then left, unable to have a discussion and back up what they say.<br /><br />Such tolerance and open debate from the "progressives."Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42354048047007497062009-06-18T11:49:35.863+02:002009-06-18T11:49:35.863+02:00Mike W., Here's another example.
""...Mike W., Here's another example.<br /><br />""You accuse us of being complicit in activities....shouldn't you address your complicity in other activities?"<br /><br />He doesn't like it when the attacks are aimed at him. He'll attack us gun owners, but can't STAND to have his own logic used against him."<br /><br />Stop wasting all our time with comments like this, please. Unless you want to do what Weer'd did. He posted comments that he knew would get rejected so often that eventually he stopped coming here. But he took with him the great victory of being able to bad-mouth me at every opportunity on other blogs as one who "censors comments." Is that a victory? <br /><br />In your case, just like in Weer'd's, I really appreciate the comments that add to the discussion, but also just like Weer'd, with you the pain is beginning to exceed the pleasure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-69304872783563390592009-06-17T18:06:17.790+02:002009-06-17T18:06:17.790+02:00"There are an estimated 579,000 illegal immig..."There are an estimated 579,000 illegal immigrants in the state, making up 9 percent of Arizona’s population, according to the Center for Immigration Studies. Illegals accounted for 10 percent of sex crimes, 11 percent of murders and 13 percent of stolen cars, according to Thomas’ office, which looked at 2007 sentencing and jail statistics."<br /><br />So here we have documented evidence of illegals committing a disproportionate number of crimes in comparison to their numbers.<br /><br />Can you provide the same about legal firearm owners MikeB?Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-68485707041000846742009-06-17T15:57:02.840+02:002009-06-17T15:57:02.840+02:00"You see, you must put yourself in the immigr..."You see, you must put yourself in the immigrants place for a minute.<br />You can't find work and your precious babies are starving. You have two choices."<br /><br />Nope, you have a 3rd choice. Follow the laws of the country you wish to enter. You want to come here, then do it legally. My grandparents and great grandparents did it the right way, so should these bums.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76662563150234206192009-06-17T15:46:33.338+02:002009-06-17T15:46:33.338+02:00Mike will NEVER show evidence of his claims. He w...Mike will NEVER show evidence of his claims. He will throw around bullshit statistics he makes up out of the blue and nothing more.<br /><br />He has nothing concrete to base any of his assertions on, which is kinda sad.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52463096333307176512009-06-17T13:45:48.269+02:002009-06-17T13:45:48.269+02:00"Today I posted the ballpark figure of 10%.&q..."Today I posted the ballpark figure of 10%."<br /><br />So show your evidence.<br /><br />Is that to much to ask?Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82009321957545113522009-06-17T08:32:43.295+02:002009-06-17T08:32:43.295+02:00kaveman, a couple months ago there were many refer...kaveman, a couple months ago there were many references to the fact that the Mexican Drug Wars were responsible for increased violence in America, especially Phoenix. <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/03/tom-diaz-addresses-house-of.html" rel="nofollow">Here's one place</a> where I talked about Tom Diaz's address to the House.<br /><br />But, around that time it was all over the news.<br /><br />The Uncle link made me laugh, it certainly is ironic. And I got your point. Here's my idea on it. In any group of a million people, or 50 million in the case of gun owners, you're gonna have a certain percentage of bad characters. Given the nature of the MMM people, anti-gun, anti-violence, etc., I'd say the percentage of those who secretly break gun laws is pretty small. But, given the nature of gun enthusiasts, some are quite violent, some are irresponsible, some are already criminals who haven't been caught, I'd say the percentage is a bit higher. Today I posted the ballpark figure of 10%.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51401772473188698402009-06-17T05:53:34.995+02:002009-06-17T05:53:34.995+02:00Using the entire internet as your resource, please...Using the entire internet as your resource, please provide a single link to an article, even an opinion piece will do, that states that "increased crime in general and home invasions in particular, all blamed on the Mexican drug cartels"<br /><br />If you are unable or unwilling to do this, ask yourself why.<br /><br />"What's your opinion? Do the Minutemen organizations sound like hate groups to you?"<br /><br />Here's a link from a pro-gun blogger you have praised highly on other blogs...<br /><br />http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2005/03/02/guess_theyre_down_to_999999_mommies_now/<br /><br />There are numerous other links as well.<br /><br />So tell me, are the Million Mom March and their parent org, the Brady Campaign, a criminal organization hiding illegal guns?<br /><br />Now tell me why this analogy is wrong.<br /><br />Again, if you are unable or unwilling to do this, ask yourself why?kavemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-29502190774796962742009-06-16T16:54:23.216+02:002009-06-16T16:54:23.216+02:00"You accuse us of being complicit in activiti..."You accuse us of being complicit in activities....shouldn't you address your complicity in other activities?"<br /><br />He doesn't like it when the attacks are aimed at him. He'll attack us gun owners, but can't STAND to have his own logic used against him.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76683538523456643532009-06-16T15:07:49.533+02:002009-06-16T15:07:49.533+02:00MikeB,
Notice that you didn't approve my comm...MikeB,<br /><br />Notice that you didn't approve my comment....wonder why that is?<br /><br />Why can't you have a discussion about a valid analogy on your blog?<br /><br />You accuse us of being complicit in activities....shouldn't you address your complicity in other activities?<br /><br />Why not discuss how some activities are illegal and that they are morally wrong?<br /><br />See, your double standards aren't out of "manners" to my mind, but to protect you from having to examine the illogic, the invalidity of your position.Bob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15882819735831651314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57973676526370448802009-06-16T04:43:08.109+02:002009-06-16T04:43:08.109+02:00Phuck and Jammer - Prime examples of the "tol...Phuck and Jammer - Prime examples of the "tolerance" of the American Left.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46102168749598988992009-06-15T20:29:43.761+02:002009-06-15T20:29:43.761+02:00I never understood the problem so many people have...I never understood the problem so many people have with illegal immigrants.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-78112844755545634402009-06-15T20:11:13.320+02:002009-06-15T20:11:13.320+02:00@Sekanblogger - I like the way you think.
@Mike W...@Sekanblogger - I like the way you think.<br /><br />@Mike W. - So the minutemen aren't racist nut jobs? What would you call them then?phuckpoliticshttp://www.phuckpolitics.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26468294352565360102009-06-15T18:03:19.259+02:002009-06-15T18:03:19.259+02:00Mike W.
Remember. According to the DHS, we'r...Mike W.<br /><br />Remember. According to the DHS, we're 'Right Wing Extremists' for the very fact that we run blogs.Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-179044650062792582009-06-15T15:12:48.112+02:002009-06-15T15:12:48.112+02:00Sekan - Gun bloggers run "right wing extremis...Sekan - Gun bloggers run "right wing extremist" sites? I'd say gun bloggers are more Libertarian than anything.<br /><br />Jammer - Nice of you to paint the minutemen as a bunch of racist nutjobs instead of actually READING the article Mike linked to.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-14994124017651934492009-06-15T14:40:14.397+02:002009-06-15T14:40:14.397+02:00This is hardly surprising considering the makeup o...This is hardly surprising considering the makeup of these so-called protectors of American life. These groups are made up of racist degenerates who have little regard for anyone or any race. <br /><br />Homeland security put out a bulletin suggesting these and other right wing groups would be on the upswing in both numbers and violence. So far they appear to be correct.jammer5http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-72753164878082477612009-06-15T14:06:43.478+02:002009-06-15T14:06:43.478+02:00Morning MikeB and MikeB fans.
Liberal gun owner he...Morning MikeB and MikeB fans.<br />Liberal gun owner here.<br /><br />I want to commend you for not running right wing extremist site.<br />I'm sure you're thinking you don't need my approval.<br />Well, in any case, gun blogs tend to be that way.<br /><br />Yeah, ya know that the situation at the border has to change.<br />Wanna reduce the killing? I do.<br />Let's try two things.<br />1) A documented guest worker program.<br />2) Legalize pot.<br /><br />You see, you must put yourself in the immigrants place for a minute.<br />You can't find work and your precious babies are starving. You have two choices. 1) swim the river and hang out at Home Depot.<br />2) be a drug mule for the cartels.<br /><br />Remember, you'd be less than a man if you don't feed those babies.<br />Now choose....<br /><br />I'm not sure I'd call the murederers Minutemen. The minutemen ay least started with good intentions, and I'm sure most do the right thing.sekanbloggerhttp://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-61598902846014328512009-06-15T14:04:26.949+02:002009-06-15T14:04:26.949+02:00I note you didn't include several pertinent pa...I note you didn't include several pertinent parts MikeB:<br /><br />""She's someone who even within the anti-immigration movement has been labeled as unstable," Levin said. "She was basically forced out of another anti-immigrant group, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and then founded her own organization."<br /><br />Why did you leave that out?<br /><br />"Do the Minutemen organizations sound like hate groups to you? "<br /><br />Nope. The original is trying to follow the law while the Gov't lets millions of people break it. <br /><br />"Aren't immigrants one of the main recipient groups of hate crimes?"<br /><br />Why don't you do some research and tell us? Defend your claims.Thirdpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02886910076400873900noreply@blogger.com