tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post8933117063534055747..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: University of Texas ShootingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37328096818598449162010-09-30T16:29:33.482+02:002010-09-30T16:29:33.482+02:00We aim to please.
Since Jadegold doesn't seem...We aim to please.<br /><br />Since Jadegold doesn't seem to want to do anything but throw lies, insults and condecension around, and you condone it (and even defend it) we figure that serious discussion isn't the goal. So, why bother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36630005148120636162010-09-30T11:35:34.583+02:002010-09-30T11:35:34.583+02:00And if you think knives and baseball bats can comp...And if you think knives and baseball bats can compare to guns for lethality, don't forget skateboards. Bob S. seriously argued with Japete that the skateboard in that famous incident last week might very well have been used to provoke the justifiable shooting.<br /><br />You guys are more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76694746241897084772010-09-30T05:37:17.914+02:002010-09-30T05:37:17.914+02:00Jade I take it you have never seen or heard of thr...Jade I take it you have never seen or heard of throwing knives? In a sense John has a point, if you are taking into account that weapons can be used in multiple ways. Knives can be used as thrown weapons, stabbing weapons, cutting weapons, and depending on the type a blunt object. K-Bar knives have a rounded end on the handle that can be used in such a fashion. Smaller knives (pocket knives) can be used in the same way, they can also be used as a type of brass knuckle. I am not going to say it is smart to use a knife in that way, but whatever floats your boat. Baseball bats can also be thrown, but I will admit they tend to be less dangerous when thrown than when used as a club. I will also say that using a knife or baseball bat in a spree killing is not likely.<br /><br />The man never said that a knife or bat was effective in all types of attacks, just that in the right or wrong hands they can be equally as dangerous or deadly. <br /><br />John never said anything about prohibition being a massive failure, just that it failed. That the use of alcohol continued even after it was banned, and it actually became a very good business to be in. It is the same with drugs if you want to go that far.<br /><br />Another thing that I noticed, John only stated that a gun safety course would possibly change minds. He never said it had to be taught by an NRA certified instructor. <br /><br />I noticed that you completely ignored his final paragraph. To which he stated that in order to solve gun violence, or violence in general that we must fix the problems with our society. That does not sound like a gun-loon to me, that just sounds like someone who feels that the problem is people, not guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-68584909416681025612010-09-30T02:01:51.102+02:002010-09-30T02:01:51.102+02:00Weerd: She likes guns, now? What a heartwarming ...Weerd: She likes guns, now? What a heartwarming tale.<br /><br />But do ever wonder...say you're shooting happily aside her at the range...and all of a sudden, y'know, an attack comes on...Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54760470660200515012010-09-30T01:56:52.873+02:002010-09-30T01:56:52.873+02:00Lord knows Mikey's little bitch is both of tho...Lord knows Mikey's little bitch is both of those things.Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55681312467576808622010-09-30T01:24:37.173+02:002010-09-30T01:24:37.173+02:00Ohh, careful there Weer'd. That could probabl...Ohh, careful there Weer'd. That could probably be construed as a death threat by the criminally insane or mentally retarded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3387158534263374062010-09-30T00:57:35.315+02:002010-09-30T00:57:35.315+02:00The man's wife got him to get rid of the guns....The man's wife got him to get rid of the guns...mark Jade's words!<br /><br />When I brought home my first gun, the wife asked if I would be buying any more. I said "Yes", she wasn't pleased with that.<br /><br />Fast forward about 8 years, now I have a BUNCH of guns, and two of them belong to my wife.<br /><br />I suspect another Jadegold Fantasy. But that's why your master keeps you around. He likes the sound of your barks, and likes to tell people what a good bitch he has!Weer'd Beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528978001340070552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-22295117766644827462010-09-30T00:48:38.217+02:002010-09-30T00:48:38.217+02:00"Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 g...<i>"Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns off the street."</i><br /><br />Where did they go? Did they destroy them? I doubt it. You got nothing "off the street", you just changed owners.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-67044188147704046292010-09-29T21:01:59.954+02:002010-09-29T21:01:59.954+02:00First, it's simply untrue that a kife or a bat...<i>First, it's simply untrue that a kife or a bat can inflict the same amount of damage as a gun.</i><br /><br />Jade lies like always.<br /><br />People have been SHOT and not even realized it. You think a .22 to the back inflicts MORE damage than a stab wound from a 7 inch hunting knife.<br /><br />People have been stabbed in the chest and killed with two inch pairing knives.<br /><br />People have been shot in the head at point blank range and walked to the hospital.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-75049198473940543322010-09-29T20:54:55.192+02:002010-09-29T20:54:55.192+02:00TS: As I've repeatedly (and quite sagely)noted...TS: As I've repeatedly (and quite sagely)noted there is no magical button to get rid of all guns. Even if there were, I'd probably have a tough time pushing that button. I come from a rural background and have owned guns and hunted; as a kid, I can remember people who didn't hunt for recreation--they hunted because if they didn't, their families didn't eat so well part of the year.<br /><br />Further, reducing the number of guns by itself is only addressing part of the problem. The problem is largely that not everyone is capable of handling firearms. Some people are criminals, some are mentally and/or physically incapable, some are emotionally incapable.<br /><br /><br />Right now, any criminal, any mentally incapacitated, any substance abuser, etc. can get whatever firearm they desire if they have the cash--with no questions asked. That's because gunloons have made access to guns easy--and they wish to make it easier still.<br /><br />Frankly, you're the dupes of a gun industry that understands it has to promote greater violence in order to profit.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-44733651836974745162010-09-29T20:53:49.864+02:002010-09-29T20:53:49.864+02:00Wait a minute, did Brad say all who are not disqua...Wait a minute, did Brad say all who are not disqualified <i>"must take a gun safety class where they learn how to shoot and safely handle a gun?"</i><br /><br />I thought you guys were against gun laws. Only kidding.<br /><br />I am curious about what FWM said. I wonder if most people who've never handled a gun would be drawn to the pro-gun side if they made a trip to the shooting range. I doubt it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83869973283096119972010-09-29T20:15:05.124+02:002010-09-29T20:15:05.124+02:00Jade, you have been very active today, but are yet...Jade, you have been very active today, but are yet to address my question. All politics aside, I would like you to honestly answer me this in your opinion:<br /><br />You think there are too many guns in this country, correct? (I have never heard of a gun controller who didn’t think that)<br /><br />So fewer guns would be better, right? <br /><br />Is none better than fewer?<br /><br />If not, please explain why “no guns” is worse than “fewer guns”. What is it about the elimination of all guns that is a bad thing in your mind?TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16190608983273754882010-09-29T20:12:10.669+02:002010-09-29T20:12:10.669+02:00Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns of...<i>Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns off the street. More importantly, I probably saved someone in that family's life.</i><br /><br />Ah, so now you are a hero! Every good bit of fiction needs a hero! Well done, but next time make the villain a bit more dastardly.RuffRidrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13597758856457029471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-39706918661027494332010-09-29T20:06:25.046+02:002010-09-29T20:06:25.046+02:00"You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns off..."You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns off the street."<br /><br /><br />Wait, wait, wait!! They were on the street? This guy was a fence?<br /><br />Or are you (still) a liar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80449689828650644202010-09-29T20:00:14.139+02:002010-09-29T20:00:14.139+02:00Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns o...Ruffy: You can call it fiction but I got 7 guns off the street. More importantly, I probably saved someone in that family's life.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86330387130871543612010-09-29T19:55:37.931+02:002010-09-29T19:55:37.931+02:00"As I've sagely noted, anything can kill-..."As I've sagely noted, anything can kill--a piece of paper, a doorstop, bad sushi."<br /><br />Where did you ever sagely note anything, and specifically, where did you note this?<br /><br />"Trotting out anedotes of people killing with cars or bombs is rather silly since none of these are particularly efficient..."<br /><br />Really, bombs seem to do the job of killing indiscriminately, and in large order, quite nicely. Hamas has that figured out, why can't you?<br /><br />"...or are subject to the perpetrator being caught or identified."<br /><br />What does that have to do with the effectiveness of the tool? Focus, Jade, that was what we were talking about here. Effectiveness, not 'can I get caught or identified?'<br /><br />"After all, it's very difficult for someone to drive their car onto an elevator so he can run over his boss on the 4th floor.<br /><br />OTOH, we don't send our troops into combat in Hyundais."<br /><br />Now you've gone to complete absurdity to make a point?<br /><br />In your first example, why wouldn't the employee wait until the end of the work day and run him over in the parking lot?<br /><br />As to your second foray into utter stupidity, we have tanks. Which surprisingly, have guns mounted on them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5888691439275797942010-09-29T19:47:12.395+02:002010-09-29T19:47:12.395+02:00Hubby had lost or misplaced 2 guns. Wifey made hub...<i>Hubby had lost or misplaced 2 guns. Wifey made hubby get rid of all his guns except a hunting rifle.<br /><br />Didn't see him wearing NRA gear anymore.</i><br /><br />Nice piece of fiction there. You've long since lost credibility here, though, so I doubt anyone believes this bit of tripe.RuffRidrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13597758856457029471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-29454767742892148782010-09-29T19:45:00.053+02:002010-09-29T19:45:00.053+02:00"Yes, murders will still be with us even if a..."Yes, murders will still be with us even if all guns were to magically disappear from the earth."<br /><br />You finally seem to grasp what we've always said. And then you go and throw this out there...<br /><br />"But we'd have far less of them."<br /><br />Based upon what evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74440198154435920242010-09-29T19:44:50.173+02:002010-09-29T19:44:50.173+02:00Anybody remember Charlie Whitman? Looks like the q...Anybody remember Charlie Whitman? Looks like the quality of (would-be) mass killers has certainly deteriorated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23729118592169858992010-09-29T19:28:14.156+02:002010-09-29T19:28:14.156+02:00"Az Red: Actually, the law is crystal clear a..."Az Red: Actually, the law is crystal clear as to what an assault weapon is. Gunloons don't like it, so they make up their own definition."<br /><br />Stop lying, Jade.<br /><br />If the law is so crystal clear, why does California have to publish a 96 page book on how to identify an assault weapon?<br /><br />And if an assault weapon is so well defined, why do gun controllers try to change the definition to include more guns such as in the latest attempt to revive the defunct 1994 Assault Weapons Ban?AztecRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00027951757285806109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-2348801028545848352010-09-29T18:04:03.113+02:002010-09-29T18:04:03.113+02:00Az Red: Actually, the law is crystal clear as to ...Az Red: Actually, the law is crystal clear as to what an assault weapon is. Gunloons don't like it, so they make up their own definition.<br /><br />MikeyW: As I've sagely noted, anything can kill--a piece of paper, a doorstop, bad sushi. Trotting out anedotes of people killing with cars or bombs is rather silly since none of these are particularly efficient or are subject to the perpetrator being caught or identified. After all, it's very difficult for someone to drive their car onto an elevator so he can run over his boss on the 4th floor.<br /><br />OTOH, we don't send our troops into combat in Hyundais.<br /><br />Yes, murders will still be with us even if all guns were to magically disappear from the earth. But we'd have far less of them.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43660130852904591902010-09-29T17:45:18.565+02:002010-09-29T17:45:18.565+02:00MikeB: “In fact, the gun turned out to be an AK-47...MikeB: “In fact, the gun turned out to be an AK-47, which I think is understood to be an "assault rifle,"<br /><br />That is “misunderstood” to be an AK-47 assault rifle.<br /><br />Jade: “John is merely rehashing the same old nonsense. First, it's simply untrue that a kife or a bat can inflict the same amount of damage as a gun.”<br /><br />Actually it can inflict more. An edged weapon can behead someone- try doing that with a gun. That doesn’t mean a gun doesn’t have other major advantages, particularly regarding multiple victims, which John in fact said, but you seemed to ignore by pretending he is claiming a knife is just as good as a gun. If that were the case, we’d all be happy with concealed knife permits.<br /><br />Jade: “Second, nobody is calling for the elimination of all guns. No one ever has.”<br /><br />It is important to look at the end of the gun control spectrum. If the world wouldn’t be a better place without guns, then what is the point of reducing guns? From a theoretical point of argument, gun control takes the position that fewer guns are better, so obviously none is better than few. If not, where does it turn around? Where does it get to the point where further reducing guns now causes harm to society? These are things you need to ask yourself Jade. You say no one is [politically] calling for the elimination of all guns- but you personally would feel it is a good thing, right?<br /><br />Also, that is a very touching story about marital communications. Thank you for sharing.TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-29354717965972385402010-09-29T17:42:25.338+02:002010-09-29T17:42:25.338+02:00Stop lying, Jade.
Even the law can't agree o...Stop lying, Jade. <br /><br />Even the law can't agree on the definition of an assault weapon. The definition differs from federal to state level and from state to state. Even the gun banners continuously redefine it to include more weapons.AztecRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00027951757285806109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-73740550142940589732010-09-29T17:38:55.618+02:002010-09-29T17:38:55.618+02:00I just love this statement, by sniveling anti-self...I just <i>love</i> <a href="http://www.texastribune.org/texas-issues/campus-carry/ut-shooting-could-renew-concealed-carry-debate/" rel="nofollow">this statement</a>, by sniveling anti-self-defense crybaby John Woods:<br><br><i>"I'd just point out that the only person who's been killed has been the shooter," Woods told the Tribune. "I think the situation might be a lot more chaotic and a lot more deadly if a number of students had tried to go in and be heroes." Ultimately, he said, the system worked.</i><br><br>Um . . . "the system <i>worked</i>"? Are we to infer, then, that "the system" is to hope that the freaked-out degenerate decides, in the end, not to take anyone along with him in his blaze of . . . <i>whatever</i> that's a blaze of?<br /><br />That's not a "system" in which I'm inclined to put much faith--I much prefer my system of taking responsibility for my own security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-9621681167757499942010-09-29T17:32:22.122+02:002010-09-29T17:32:22.122+02:00"Actually, the trick many gunloons use WRT as..."Actually, the trick many gunloons use WRT assault weapons is to make up their own definition which is always at variance with the law's definition."<br /><br />No, Jadefool, that's your side's trick. Change the definition, or intentionally muddy the definitions, or make up words until people think that all guns are "assault weapons" even though no such thing ever existed.<br /><br /><br />Assualt rifles have a clear definition. If you want to pretend otherwise, that's on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com