tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post9031987971165248219..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Gun Theft in Santa Barbara CountyAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-88378911571329950402010-10-22T17:49:58.691+02:002010-10-22T17:49:58.691+02:00Mike, you know I was being sarcastic, right (I use...Mike, you know I was being sarcastic, right (I used the /s)? They say “allegedly” because the suspects have not been convicted yet.TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58476540953773296712010-10-22T08:42:53.269+02:002010-10-22T08:42:53.269+02:00TS, You've got a great point. Use of the word...TS, You've got a great point. Use of the word "allegedly" strongly removes the onus from the criminal. That's interesting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5230873684328434022010-10-22T04:39:19.340+02:002010-10-22T04:39:19.340+02:00One thing worth pointing out is that no safe is th...One thing worth pointing out is that no safe is thief proof. Does it make it harder? Of course- but the down side is that safes also tell thieves, “there is something valuable in here”. Depending on the situation, a good hiding spot may be a better theft deterrent (not necessary in the case of this guy with 20 guns). I like safes, I just don’t like a government that would mandate it as the only solution.TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80353277937539644652010-10-22T00:48:05.925+02:002010-10-22T00:48:05.925+02:00Ah, Laci, I see you've learned something this ...Ah, Laci, I see you've learned something this week.<br /><br />Although perhaps 'affirming the consequent' or 'non sequiter' would be better for you to try in this case.<br /><br />Yes, I'm arguing against myself. Then again, my whole argument is a hypothetical based on a <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/25/news/mn-10333" rel="nofollow">historical event</a> that plausibly was facilitated by a safe storage law.Van Dykenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-67298099311761648422010-10-21T17:10:38.576+02:002010-10-21T17:10:38.576+02:00The owner shares NO responsibility for the theft. ...The owner shares NO responsibility for the theft. He's a VICTIM who had his home broken into and his property stolen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27453503506105329852010-10-21T16:56:44.982+02:002010-10-21T16:56:44.982+02:00Note Mike that the reporter used the word “alleged...Note Mike that the reporter used the word “allegedly” seven times. Why is the media so insistent on not blaming the criminal? Is this some conspiracy to blame the gun owner? /sTSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62181904788547578712010-10-21T16:56:41.938+02:002010-10-21T16:56:41.938+02:00Well, given enough time, I'd bet most able bod...Well, given enough time, I'd bet most able bodied people could eventually break into most home 'safes'. Of course, I have to wonder if he'd even bothered to lock it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50444753442470289502010-10-21T13:32:20.369+02:002010-10-21T13:32:20.369+02:00Ah, here we have the proper use of the fallacy red...Ah, here we have the proper use of the fallacy reductio ad absurdum:<br /><i>A safe storage law won't prevent children being killed by pitchforks, but it very well may facilitate it.</i>Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36875574536752632042010-10-21T09:28:42.362+02:002010-10-21T09:28:42.362+02:00California's law is rather weak, compared to t...California's law is rather weak, compared to the UL RSC standard. <br /><br />http://www.ehow.com/list_6726510_gun-safe-regulations.html<br /><br />A safe storage law won't prevent children being killed by pitchforks, but it very well may facilitate it.Van Dykenoreply@blogger.com