tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1266761588959574413..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Protecting Against the Oppressive GovernmentAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84106988213105837892009-12-04T21:26:37.638+01:002009-12-04T21:26:37.638+01:00"Slowing Tyranny is pretty important."
...<i>"Slowing Tyranny is pretty important."<br /><br />Do you really think the fact that civilians own guns is doing that?</i><br /><br />I hope that there is never a need. <br /><br />However, until gun rights are taken from us, there is a limit to the amount of oppression that can be imposed without a successful revolution. I'd rather fight the political battle for gun rights now than the physical battle against oppression later. <br /><br />Or more likely, have my grandkids unable to fight against oppression.Sevesteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439626386416115766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28544165549230444442009-12-04T08:47:32.459+01:002009-12-04T08:47:32.459+01:00Sevesteen, I like almost everything you say, espec...Sevesteen, I like almost everything you say, especially the way you say it, but do you really mean this? <br /><br /><i>"Slowing Tyranny is pretty important."</i><br /><br />Do you really think the fact that civilians own guns is doing that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23501058134311630282009-12-03T18:13:23.360+01:002009-12-03T18:13:23.360+01:00I don't know at what point I would resist a ty...I don't know at what point I would resist a tyrannical government by violence, except to say that it is indeed a last resort and we are nowhere close to that point. <br /><br />If I did know, I would not announce it publicly. <br /><br />We as a country currently have the ability to resist a tyrant, even if individuals or small groups do not. That's the level it should be. The ability by itself will slow a tyrant from his eventual goals. <br /><br />...and removing our ability to resist, even if done by well-meaning people for the best of intentions makes it easier for a tyrant. <br /><br />Pragmatic arguments about crime, self-defense and the relative levels of misuse of guns support the concept of gun rights, but other arguments are more important. Slowing Tyranny is pretty important, and the threat of violence may allow some other solution to work before actual violence is needed. Additionally, the constitution is important, and the government should not be allowed to re-interpret it for their benefit without amending it. Would freedom of the press limited to government licensed journalists be a good idea?Sevesteenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439626386416115766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58430582304900979012009-12-03T16:12:37.120+01:002009-12-03T16:12:37.120+01:00"The problem is, none of these people should ..."The problem is, none of these people should have guns because they're too unstable and dangerous. I covered them in my very popular analysis entitled The Famous 10%."<br /><br />Try to take our guns away, Fuckwad, and find out just how dangerous we are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13269155926326985582009-12-03T15:40:14.034+01:002009-12-03T15:40:14.034+01:00What if they make some of the guns you own illegal...<i>What if they make some of the guns you own illegal and come to your house to arrest you?</i><br /><br />If they do that they're no longer considered legitimate government agents and will be resisted the same way as any common thug breaking into my home.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80244950026400862512009-12-03T10:45:06.021+01:002009-12-03T10:45:06.021+01:00"That sounds pretty dramatic, but what if the..."That sounds pretty dramatic, but what if they don't open fire, what if they just keep chipping away at your rights?"<br /><br />Then they become irrelevant and I ignore them like many other things I don't like.<br /><br />"What if they make some of the guns you own illegal and come to your house to arrest you?"<br /><br />Then I will resist. <br /><br />"Then, being true usurpers, as soon as they get you in the cell disarmed, they'll kill you."<br /><br />They won't get me to a cell unless I want to go. And I don't want to go.<br /><br />"Either you think this is a likely possibility, in which case you have to shoot first, or you don't, in which case you can stop all the exaggerated tough talk. What do you say?"<br /><br />I don't have to shoot them first anymore than I have to punch a school yard bully first. <br /><br />First you ignore them. If they keep bothering you, then you resist them. If you don't willingly comply, they'll force you to comply. And in that case, you're justified in using force in return. If they decide to shoot you for noncompliance, then anyone who wants is justified to shoot them in return.AztecRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00027951757285806109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24919233188177782512009-12-03T08:42:49.188+01:002009-12-03T08:42:49.188+01:00AztecRed says he's going to open fire "Af...AztecRed says he's going to open fire <i>"After the usurpers fire."</i><br /><br />That sounds pretty dramatic, but what if they don't open fire, what if they just keep chipping away at your rights? What if they make some of the guns you own illegal and come to your house to arrest you? Then, being true usurpers, as soon as they get you in the cell disarmed, they'll kill you.<br /><br />Either you think this is a likely possibility, in which case you have to shoot first, or you don't, in which case you can stop all the exaggerated tough talk. What do you say?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34400162125788354302009-12-02T18:13:59.945+01:002009-12-02T18:13:59.945+01:00There is a really great argument against the genoc...There is a really great argument against the genocide thing at:<br />http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/gunsorxp.htm<br /><br /><i>Whoever compiled the tally of genocide victims has a different definition of defenseless than I do. I myself wouldn't declare the largest military machine on the planet "unable to defend itself", but by adding 20 million from the Soviet Union, this list does. After all, Stalin's most infamous terror fell heavily on the Soviet Army, culling tens of thousand of officers, and executing three out of five marshals, 15 out of 16 army commanders, 60 out of 67 corps commanders and 136 out of 199 division commanders. In one bloody year, the majority of the officer corps was led away quietly and shot. It may be one of life's great mysteries as to why the Red Army allowed itself to be gutted that way, but obviously, lack of firepower can't be the reason.</i><br /><br />So, AztecRed for all his bluster will just march off to be slaughtered like a sheep.Laci the Chinese Crestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371541369012938298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20801061161051525992009-12-02T13:40:29.442+01:002009-12-02T13:40:29.442+01:00Actually, mike, the so-called protectors of libert...Actually, mike, the so-called protectors of liberty are opening fire in random locations all across this nation, just read the newspaper.<br /><br />Of course, the mired gun addicts call them random nut-cases, but aren't they all?mud_rakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04786611698569598023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79293758703440550492009-12-02T08:22:20.131+01:002009-12-02T08:22:20.131+01:00"When are you protectors of liberty going to ..."When are you protectors of liberty going to open fire?"<br /><br />After the usurpers fire.AztecRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00027951757285806109noreply@blogger.com