tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1343847217969989585..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Lawful Alaska Gun Owner, Enjoying Constitutional Carry, Shoots Walmart Store ManagerAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-11486212440771202622013-03-23T11:38:57.545+01:002013-03-23T11:38:57.545+01:00Well noted. I don't have an edit function - on...Well noted. I don't have an edit function - only delete. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74877393970019565122013-03-23T07:38:11.412+01:002013-03-23T07:38:11.412+01:00It would appear I've somehow lost both a gramm...It would appear I've somehow lost both a grammar and a spelling gene. Please change "ban" to "bans" and "no" to "know".Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13921494285452285332013-03-23T01:44:40.562+01:002013-03-23T01:44:40.562+01:00Greg has dealt with the immediate context. If you&...Greg has dealt with the immediate context. If you'd like other examples of anti-rights people discarding the truth: When anti-rights people claim the 2nd Amendment has only recently been seen as protecting an individual right (especially when they claim to have read pertinent historic documents) that is discarding the truth. When some anti-rights folks have publicly expressed an interest in extensive or even complete civilian gun ban only to have anti-rights people (including those who should no better) claim no one wants to do so. That qualifies as discarding the truth.Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80189599826022960482013-03-22T15:47:02.819+01:002013-03-22T15:47:02.819+01:00Mikeb, I know you read the article that I wrote ab...Mikeb, I know you read the article that I wrote about Oregonian's new site, and I showed you immediately above your question where the lie is. But I'll clarify:<br /><br />Oregonian has created a new site that claims not to be associated with any gun violence prevention organizations. Why he would claim that is beyond me, but perhaps he wants to add the air of neutrality to it. The facts that he's the author and that he <b>is</b> associated with said groups means that he lied. The fact that he's an activist against gun rights--call it what you will--means that he implied something that isn't true.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-87196766548013536002013-03-21T20:20:09.327+01:002013-03-21T20:20:09.327+01:00I'm not sure I follow that bit about discardin...I'm not sure I follow that bit about discarding truth when it no longer serves. Can you give an example?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62518106051301215092013-03-21T15:14:18.925+01:002013-03-21T15:14:18.925+01:00While I don't know enough about anyone who com...While I don't know enough about anyone who comments here to be sure, I've found this to be generally true: For people who want to limit freedom and choice, truth has little value beyond its utility. So, when the truth no longer serves the "greater purpose" of an anti-rights person, it is as easily discarded as a jacket which no longer fits.Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-66996490112668738692013-03-21T08:59:25.304+01:002013-03-21T08:59:25.304+01:00So, Oregonian, you lied when you claimed that this...So, Oregonian, you lied when you claimed that this new site isn't associated with any gun control groups. Thanks for your admission. As for your status as an activist against rights, I've just read your own words. Please don't be a whiny baby and try to claim that you're not against gun ownership and carry. The truth matters.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-85070195771903818592013-03-21T08:57:33.839+01:002013-03-21T08:57:33.839+01:00Exactly so, Anonymous.Exactly so, Anonymous.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-45466783130391976722013-03-20T07:05:22.842+01:002013-03-20T07:05:22.842+01:00Yes, I'm a volunteer for CO, but that doesn...Yes, I'm a volunteer for CO, but that doesn't mean everything I do is somehow magically associated with them. duh. <br /><br />And no, I'm not "an activist against gun ownership and carry" despite your pre-conceived notions about me.Baldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-37075265594000833462013-03-19T19:57:47.725+01:002013-03-19T19:57:47.725+01:00Give them time.Give them time.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5756005711863788432013-03-19T19:37:50.593+01:002013-03-19T19:37:50.593+01:00Ah, More proof that we need to add to the grading ...Ah, More proof that we need to add to the grading of falsehoods.<br /><br />There's lies; there's damned lies; there's statistics; and then there's the world according to MikeB, Dog Gone, Laci, Baldr, and Jade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-9511274459218303812013-03-19T19:35:39.008+01:002013-03-19T19:35:39.008+01:00Addendum to what Greg said: It's also against ...Addendum to what Greg said: It's also against our principles to punish bad people for things they didn't do (or try to do).<br /><br />Sorry Mike, but if you want to be able to punish bad people for being bad people, you'll have to find somewhere else without due process and get them to make you their chief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57921202305565171482013-03-19T18:33:43.536+01:002013-03-19T18:33:43.536+01:00Of course he had the right to not be shot. The las...Of course he had the right to not be shot. The last time I checked, our criminal justice system is designed to punish criminals (which we define as those who actually commit a crime vs someone who might do so), not those who obey the law.Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62497259448887476832013-03-19T18:25:22.865+01:002013-03-19T18:25:22.865+01:00I doubt if they counted this one, but they should....I doubt if they counted this one, but they should.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20909817423738101022013-03-19T15:53:45.708+01:002013-03-19T15:53:45.708+01:00You bet. That's why they arrested the man for...You bet. That's why they arrested the man for violating the managers right to not be shot.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-81538365585284438892013-03-19T14:37:21.593+01:002013-03-19T14:37:21.593+01:00Of course the manager shouldn't have been shot...Of course the manager shouldn't have been shot. That's why we have a justice system to punish the shooter, hopefully severely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23002481893124384772013-03-19T14:16:57.567+01:002013-03-19T14:16:57.567+01:00Of course, an innocent person has the right not to...Of course, an innocent person has the right not to be shot. When that right is violated, we address it through the courts. It's against the principle of American law to punish good people who did nothing wrong.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54180651168998212122013-03-19T14:15:18.008+01:002013-03-19T14:15:18.008+01:00The Violence Policy Center already does. He's...The Violence Policy Center already does. He's a part of their tiny number.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-33620201969028410512013-03-19T13:02:41.000+01:002013-03-19T13:02:41.000+01:00What about the Walmart manager? Didn't he hav...What about the Walmart manager? Didn't he have the right to not be shot by some idiot who should never have been allowed to own a gun in the first place?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76075823634712260682013-03-19T11:53:01.009+01:002013-03-19T11:53:01.009+01:00Well, it certainly would be higher is we counted a...Well, it certainly would be higher is we counted all the Constitutional Carry idiots who do shit like this. Let's start with Loughner.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62676773391647124002013-03-19T06:27:03.232+01:002013-03-19T06:27:03.232+01:00Baldr, I'm curious as to how you quantify &quo...Baldr, I'm curious as to how you quantify "all the time" since, as I recall, you do statistics for a living. Retired Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02699864696101977529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-47714030926898017022013-03-19T01:04:22.819+01:002013-03-19T01:04:22.819+01:00Baldr, while you are here, please check out Mike&#...Baldr, while you are here, please check out Mike's post entitled "States with weak gun laws have more murders" and offer your comments. Thanks.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89947592687077894352013-03-19T00:57:30.516+01:002013-03-19T00:57:30.516+01:00Yes, Greg has the right to go out of town for more...Yes, Greg has the right to go out of town for more than a week without being subject to arrest and imprisonment. Call it his right to travel freely if you are not comfortable with the "keep and bear arms" thing.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-20093794901818828932013-03-19T00:48:44.191+01:002013-03-19T00:48:44.191+01:00In other words, you're arguing "nothing s...In other words, you're arguing "nothing should be done" (since we already know that any proposal I support you would assume goes against your interpretation of "rights").Baldr Odinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11818934498607763309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-60559501017087783432013-03-19T00:23:51.300+01:002013-03-19T00:23:51.300+01:00So you've started another blog where comments ...So you've started another blog where comments aren't allowed? Gee, I'll be sure to visit regularly. By the way, if you wouldn't lie on it, you might get more respect. You claim that the blog isn't associated with any gun control groups, or whatever you labelled them. You're the author. Aren't you part of CeaseFire Oregon? Aren't you known as an activist against gun ownership and carry?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com