tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1839432438223642908..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Great blonde hunter!Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17836262808249168402011-12-01T14:57:13.909+01:002011-12-01T14:57:13.909+01:00I have no beef with legitimate hunters who follow ...I have no beef with legitimate hunters who follow all the rules and don't drink alcohol when they go hunting. <br /><br />Get it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-57564151827139521692011-12-01T14:07:06.411+01:002011-12-01T14:07:06.411+01:00FatWhiteMan:
A rare apology is forthcoming from m...FatWhiteMan:<br /><br />A rare apology is forthcoming from me. You are correct. There I said it, it hurt like hell, but I said it!<br /><br />I was talking to a guy last night who sat out in the rain and snow for most of the day yesterday while the wily bucks avoided his fire lane. He hunts with both a bow and a rifle (he's got oneathem multi-barrel AR platforms that will take .223, .450 and another caliber--.308?). He thought the whole notion of "purity" was pretty silly. He's all about "clean kill". So am I. If you're going to hunt you should use best practice and be "safety first" on every shot.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-64983836154550836802011-12-01T03:18:55.446+01:002011-12-01T03:18:55.446+01:00"Modern hunting bows are quite a bit differen...<i>"Modern hunting bows are quite a bit different than the bows that were in use 100 years ago. Kevlar, carbon fiber and other materials, plus the relative ease of draw of modern bows and the lethality of the modern hunting arrow make them much easier to use and more deadly."</i><br /><br />That was kind of my point. The modern bow is not what it was a decade ago, let alone 100 years or more. To regard it as more "pure" than a crossbow is silly. They are both capable, deadly hunting devices.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-15059761426100775642011-11-30T16:32:43.042+01:002011-11-30T16:32:43.042+01:00Democommie,
Why are you such a deliberate ass? A...Democommie,<br /><br />Why are you such a deliberate ass? A deer is a deer, and a human is a human. Hunting is different from self defense. If the woman in question had deliberately shot a human being, she'd be a sociopath, not a hunter. Do I have to explain that to you? Also, you should note that I said "apparently" and "if." I understand alleged vs. convicted.<br /><br />When it comes to me, you know nothing.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3241191157253553002011-11-30T14:06:58.318+01:002011-11-30T14:06:58.318+01:00FatWhiteMan:
I meant to add that the "bow, c...FatWhiteMan:<br /><br />I meant to add that the "bow, cross-bow" thing is not as cut and dried as even you portray it. Modern hunting bows are quite a bit different than the bows that were in use 100 years ago. Kevlar, carbon fiber and other materials, plus the relative ease of draw of modern bows and the lethality of the modern hunting arrow make them much easier to use and more deadly. <br /><br />Jumping out of trees with a spear, now THAT would be some hunting. Course, if I was to jump out of a tree with a spear, I'd prolly forget to have the safety on and I'd get a pointy thingy in me.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36304606835424767822011-11-30T14:02:13.164+01:002011-11-30T14:02:13.164+01:00FatWhiteMan:
Not knowing the speed limit is 65 an...FatWhiteMan:<br /><br />Not knowing the speed limit is 65 and doing 70 is hardly the same thing as not knowing that it's not okay to shoot over bait. A cursory look at the chart on this page (http://www.skinnymoose.com/wanderings/2010/08/21/deer-vs-bear-the-pro-and-con-of-baiting/) shows that of MN and the five states that border it only one, WI, allows some limited deer baiting. <br /><br />I have no beef with hunters who follow the rules; I do have a problem with hunters who break the rules.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35191430535345492612011-11-30T13:44:39.377+01:002011-11-30T13:44:39.377+01:00The speed limit is 70 in Michigan and 65 in Ohio. ...The speed limit is 70 in Michigan and 65 in Ohio. This is no different. Hunting deer over bait is legal in most states, not in others. It is your job to know the local laws and to obey them but failing to do so does not make you some sort of despicable criminal.<br /><br /><i>"I had someone tell me last night that shooting a deer with a rifle is sick--bows, muzzleloaders and slugguns, though, are okay. I guess "sick" means very different things to people."</i><br /><br />Demo,<br /><br />No kidding. Some hunters are unbelievable in their prejudices. I have seen some ludicrous statements made when states consider changing hunting regulations. One example was the Penn. debate on allowing crossbows to be used during bow season. Some hunters actually claimed that crossbows were "modern" and the use of the bow was somehow more pure because it was the way that primitive man hunted. Some didn't appreciate my comments. I said that they were right. Crossbows are merely 600 years old and not as "pure" as their bows. Just imagine our ancestors 10's of thousands of years ago sitting around the fire the night before the hunt. Telling tales of past hunts while they stretch their steel cables, truing up their pullies and checking the springs on their mechanical activated broadheads.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74227785509497013082011-11-30T13:11:58.913+01:002011-11-30T13:11:58.913+01:00FatWhiteMan:
The baiting and shooting of not one,...FatWhiteMan:<br /><br />The baiting and shooting of not one, but two, deer; the carelessness of not knowing releavant regulations and, after the fact, the unwillingness to simply stipulate to the facts indicate "stupid" to me.<br /><br />Greg Camp:<br /><br />Wow, you're not defending her, "until all of the facts are known"?<br /><br />This was a deer, what if it had been a human? Would she be more of an idiot, then.<br /><br />You were fine with the guy shooting his gun to discourage/dissuade a prowler (someone he actually knew, it appears). That gent thought he "knew" the rules--apparently the police disagree with him. Now, say this same mighty Nimrodette had been in that situation, having someone she perceived as posing a threat on her property (or near it) and she decided that Castle Doctrine allowed her to preemptively shoot that person? There's not a great deal of difference, in terms of FAIL, in not knowing hunting regs v not knowing "baggin da perp" regs. The problem is that shooting deer illegally is not quite as serious as shooting people, legally or otherwise.<br /><br />I know that to you, the shooter is always justified when they perceive a threat. You're wrong.<br /><br />Mikeb302000:<br /><br />I had someone tell me last night that shooting a deer with a rifle is sick--bows, muzzleloaders and slugguns, though, are okay. I guess "sick" means very different things to people.<br /><br />I got no beef with legit hunters; I do wonder about people who use game trail cameras and so forth to "browse" for their trophy, but as long as they follow the rules...<br /><br />Things like gamecams do sorta give the lie to the "culling the herd" meme.democommiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714733977927594559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-40542015806854737082011-11-30T09:16:27.174+01:002011-11-30T09:16:27.174+01:00For me there's more to it. Hunting is a sick ...For me there's more to it. Hunting is a sick activity. Sitting in a tree stand and shooting animals is OK, but putting bait out for them is not? Is that what I understood?<br /><br />Sick.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-12527633836041389872011-11-30T06:40:07.464+01:002011-11-30T06:40:07.464+01:00She apparently violated a hunting regulation, and ...She apparently violated a hunting regulation, and if convicted, she'll pay. That's as should be. The system worked. Arre you just gloating, or is there more to this?Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80947138195385017732011-11-30T03:44:27.962+01:002011-11-30T03:44:27.962+01:00Obviously she broke the law in Minnesota rather or...Obviously she broke the law in Minnesota rather or not she thought she had.<br /><br />I'm not sure what <i>"one of the examples of idiotz wit teh gunz doin' stupid shit."</i> this is other than failing to read and understand the local regulations. It doesn't sound like she was intentionally poaching or trying to hide anything.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.com