tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post1874523349547125238..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Florida Concealed Carry Permit Holder Attacked in Walmart Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32631400990109301402015-01-26T22:41:30.066+01:002015-01-26T22:41:30.066+01:00Mike, it would really simplify the situation if al...Mike, it would really simplify the situation if all the criminals would just re-think their actions and just stay home, or find a real job. Gunsmokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43540528289973329192015-01-26T17:32:45.762+01:002015-01-26T17:32:45.762+01:00Who said anything about him being "afraid of ...Who said anything about him being "afraid of the very sight of a [gun]"? Stupid, yes. Afraid, not so much.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-992334318365193312015-01-26T17:04:17.631+01:002015-01-26T17:04:17.631+01:00All right, let's assume he was an anti-gun lib...<i>All right, let's assume he was an anti-gun liberal who's afraid of the very sight of an evil and dangerous firearm? Then he jumped on the guy with the gun, disarmed him and put him in a choke hold?<br /><br />Kinda ruins your theory, doesn't it?</i><br /><br />Not even close. Attacking that which one irrationally fears is a very well-known phenomenon. Ever hear of <a href="https://www.petfinder.com/dogs/dog-training/fear-biting/" rel="nofollow">fear-biting</a>? For a "gun control" advocate to behave like a dangerous, inadequately socialized beast is hardly surprising.<br /><br />This <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2015/01/florida-concealed-carry-permit-holder.html?showComment=1422029348768#c8670197010593728675" rel="nofollow">CSGV hero of "gun control"</a> (dare I call him a "<a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2014/11/congratulations-jon-holzwarth-you-are.html?showComment=1417696513404#c4211469288564141835" rel="nofollow">prominent</a>" advocate of "gun control"? By Southern Beale's and Mikeb's standards, it would appear safe, especially if I called him "<a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2015/01/salon-interview-with-shannon-watts.html?showComment=1420474556927#c8257242608528116072" rel="nofollow">approximately prominent</a>," right, Mikeb?) could be the new poster boy for the famous combination of anti-gun fanaticism and racism so well established in history.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-32359341409028003972015-01-26T16:49:25.725+01:002015-01-26T16:49:25.725+01:00You know what would simplify everything, if you gu...<i>You know what would simplify everything, if you gun nuts who think you need a gun at all times would just leave them at home.</i><br /><br /><i>You know what would simplify everything, if you [gratuitous, puerile libel] who think you need a gun at all times would just leave them at home.</i><br /><br />Yeah--I've heard that before. Women wouldn't get raped if they wore less revealing clothing; African-Americans wouldn't be terrorized, brutalized, and killed, if they'd just stay out of white people's places; people wouldn't get carjacked if they drove cheaper, less ostentatious cars, etc. <i>All</i> of that is the thinking of swine.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-28060373124110076172015-01-26T16:41:23.159+01:002015-01-26T16:41:23.159+01:00All right, let's assume he was an anti-gun lib...All right, let's assume he was an anti-gun liberal who's afraid of the very sight of an evil and dangerous firearm? Then he jumped on the guy with the gun, disarmed him and put him in a choke hold?<br /><br />Kinda ruins your theory, doesn't it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-75897213317660933572015-01-26T16:36:57.319+01:002015-01-26T16:36:57.319+01:00You know what would simplify everything, if you gu...You know what would simplify everything, if you gun nuts who think you need a gun at all times would just leave them at home.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46958822408358221462015-01-26T07:02:32.956+01:002015-01-26T07:02:32.956+01:00It's so nice you gun loons always start your r...It's so nice you gun loons always start your replies with insults. Please don't complain when I do the same to you. I did not misread. I remember the reply by one gun loon saying, "do you call the cops when you see a cop carrying a gun?" And went on to claim anyone who makes such a 911 call should be arrested. You loons can't even remember the loony shit you say, and then deny it. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43157450737481545362015-01-26T04:17:51.882+01:002015-01-26T04:17:51.882+01:00"I've read on previous post that you gun ..."I've read on previous post that you gun loons think it's a crime to call 911 on legal gun carriers."<br /><br /> Its a crime when someone calls 911 and reports something that is inaccurate and would lead someone to getting hurt. That is called SWATTing. Calling to report seeing someone carrying and reporting it accurately is just fine.<br /> The 911 operator might even tell you that what the person is doing is completely legal, and it might go on the list prioritized a little lower than say traffic accidents and such.<br /> Requirements requiring showing documents to police vary from state to state. Is anyone here familiar with these requirements in Constitutional carry states like Vermont? There might not be much to show there.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-90579127129129758832015-01-26T01:38:29.891+01:002015-01-26T01:38:29.891+01:00You have no reading comprehension Fred. What was ...You have no reading comprehension Fred. What was being criticized there was people suggesting that they should call and exaggerate the situation, and the one case so far where we know that is what happened, resulting in two deaths. Those are the situations where we think the behavior ought to be met with criminal sanctions.<br /><br />As for the idea of calling 911 every time you see someone carrying, as long as you don't exaggerate to try and get a huge response we aren't going to suggest you're doing something criminal--just something stupid, wasteful of the 911 system, and showing a lack of the common sense that allows normal people to look, see if someone is behaving normally, and move on if they are.SJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3241132297825010462015-01-25T18:57:35.372+01:002015-01-25T18:57:35.372+01:00I've read on previous post that you gun loons ...I've read on previous post that you gun loons think it's a crime to call 911 on legal gun carriers. How does anyone know a person is a legal gun carrier, or not? If legal gun carriers object to being asked about their status to legally carry, then you should not carry. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-80370236817870933892015-01-24T21:01:57.013+01:002015-01-24T21:01:57.013+01:00"And Fred, y'all try to use a few outlier..."And Fred, y'all try to use a few outliers to label the rest of us every day--why shouldn't you be susceptible to the same criticisms?"<br />I read this as you saying it was me.<br />Again, I don't accept that a small minority doing some thing means the majority does, or supports the same. You can find anecdotal evidence of anything, that doesn't mean it's accepted by all. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65985905248901972752015-01-24T18:17:15.954+01:002015-01-24T18:17:15.954+01:00"And if the guy had called 911 instead of bei..."And if the guy had called 911 instead of being an idiot, would you guys be blasting him for for that also?"<br /><br /> If he had called 911, this would never have made the news. The 911 operator would have asked some tough questions like "what is he doing?". The police have done it before and these events are often talked of on concealed carry forums. <br /> And strangely, there don't seem to be similar problems in places like Vermont, where they don't require a permit at all. Its called Constitutional Carry.<br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-1703176642190697032015-01-24T17:46:33.392+01:002015-01-24T17:46:33.392+01:00Assume racist, don't assume anti-gun. Got it....Assume racist, don't assume anti-gun. Got it.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23419382684976309432015-01-24T16:48:11.004+01:002015-01-24T16:48:11.004+01:00Maybe you didn't understand me, Kurt. I meant ...<i>Maybe you didn't understand me, Kurt. I meant if the black guy had gotten to his gun he would have shot and killed his attacker, and justifiably so.</i><br /><br />Apparently I did not, and I both commend you for your rational outlook on this case, and apologize for not believing you capable of it.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-90213347812827157602015-01-24T16:45:14.625+01:002015-01-24T16:45:14.625+01:00Apparently, Mr. Foster is getting some atta boys o...<i>Apparently, Mr. Foster is getting some atta boys over on the CSGV Facebook page. I'd invite everyone to go take a look</i><br /><br />Wow, judging by Foster''s fanboys at CSGV, this asshole appears not to be quite the progressive outlier <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2015/01/florida-concealed-carry-permit-holder.html?showComment=1422026925088#c605812416070257180" rel="nofollow">some would have us</a> believe him to be.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43389384477629176652015-01-24T16:39:12.802+01:002015-01-24T16:39:12.802+01:00For one thing, TS, he wasn't necessarily anti-...<i>For one thing, TS, he wasn't necessarily anti-gun at all. He thought he was stopping a crime.</i><br /><br />To paraphrase Jeff Foxworthy, if the sight of a gun makes you think "crime," you might be an anti-gun fanatic.<br /><br /><i>Secondly, when a white guy sees a black guy with a gun and assumes the black guy is up to no good, that's racist, in my view.</i><br /><br />How about when a black guy sees a white guy with a gun and assumes the white guy is up to no good? Is that racist, too, or is this another of your famous <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2013/07/geraldo-rivera-predicted-it.html?showComment=1373969955178#c6611727980452008947" rel="nofollow">unidirectional racism charges</a>?Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-56233037005417568632015-01-24T15:36:34.885+01:002015-01-24T15:36:34.885+01:00Fred, I didn't say you had supported any of th...Fred, I didn't say you had supported any of those things. I said that there are a lot of people in the gun control movement who do, and there is pretty much crickets as far as response to them from the movement's leadership.<br /><br />Nice try at deflecting by pretending I had claimed that YOU supported these things specifically--clever dodge, but no cigar.SJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26631874138881924912015-01-24T14:50:56.636+01:002015-01-24T14:50:56.636+01:00For one thing, TS, he wasn't necessarily anti-...For one thing, TS, he wasn't necessarily anti-gun at all. He thought he was stopping a crime. Secondly, when a white guy sees a black guy with a gun and assumes the black guy is up to no good, that's racist, in my view.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50887134207547334902015-01-24T14:48:02.645+01:002015-01-24T14:48:02.645+01:00"That sounds like your kind of "presumpt..."That sounds like your kind of "presumption," alright, Mikeb--the kind that's directly opposite to the presumption of innocence pending proof of guilt."<br /><br />Maybe you didn't understand me, Kurt. I meant if the black guy had gotten to his gun he would have shot and killed his attacker, and justifiably so.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-35990632274851416172015-01-24T14:46:13.968+01:002015-01-24T14:46:13.968+01:00I don't think the guy was an anti-carry vigila...I don't think the guy was an anti-carry vigilante. He thought the black guy with a gun was up to no good, which makes him a busybody vigilante and probably a racist. I know you guys love to be the victims, but in this case I don't think it was about concealed carry at all, it was about stopping a crime by a wannabe hero citizen.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26526261681260844572015-01-23T21:55:33.889+01:002015-01-23T21:55:33.889+01:00Why the cries of "racist"? Can't he...Why the cries of "racist"? Can't he just be a run of the mill anti-gun asshole?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-76329565183494273962015-01-23T19:14:44.109+01:002015-01-23T19:14:44.109+01:00SJ, I don't remember making a comment supporti...SJ, I don't remember making a comment supporting calling SWAT people just because some saw a person carrying a gun in Krogers. Maybe you can refresh my memory.<br />I don't support telling a lie just to get the cops on scene. I have no problem with citizens calling the cops if they see strangers carrying guns. Let the cops decide who is a good guy, or a bad guy. <br />I have a problem with idiots like this that simply attack someone without knowing. I have a real problem with idiots who would advise that be the guiding act. I have no problem with charging an idiot like this. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-49884440987685747752015-01-23T19:09:57.562+01:002015-01-23T19:09:57.562+01:00What it looked like to me that Daniels was trying ...What it looked like to me that Daniels was trying desperately to retain his gun as you don't want to loose control of it and have it used against you. He couldn't retain it and it was handed off to other strangers, just how smart is that? One of those strangers could have used it against Daniels, Foster or anyone else in range of it. Gunsmoke.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62477484482970127422015-01-23T19:04:32.683+01:002015-01-23T19:04:32.683+01:00And if the guy had called 911 instead of being an ...And if the guy had called 911 instead of being an idiot, would you guys be blasting him for for that also?<br />I'm not going to defend this idiot, but don't claim anyone who has a concern after seeing a guy grab an gun and holster it just before he enters a public place, is fearful and violent. Given the mass shootings in public places lately calling 911 is not an irrational move. Just because there are carry laws doesn't mean it's irrational to be concerned about seeing strangers carrying guns in public places. How can the average person tell a good guy from a bad guy? Let the cops handle it, that's their job. People who carry guns should not take exception that they may be asked about it. Knee jerk reactions on any side does not define the majority of any side. If idiots on the gun control side are calling to assault anyone carrying a gun, that's just asking for trouble and from what I read just more idiots from a minority viewpoint. Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-86701970105937286752015-01-23T17:09:08.768+01:002015-01-23T17:09:08.768+01:00Apparently, Mr. Foster is getting some atta boys o...Apparently, Mr. Foster is getting some atta boys over on the CSGV Facebook page. I'd invite everyone to go take a look,<br /><br />thanks for trying Michael<br /><br />No one should have to tolerate some asshole bringing a gun into a store. Tackling someone IS the correct response. Fuck this permit bullshit, these laws need to be repealed and guns need to stay home with the crazy fucks who think they need them. <br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/CoalitiontoStopGunViolence/posts/1020725831288315<br />ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.com