tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post3176439720427368574..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: S.E. Cupp Uses NRA Media Myth To Find Danger In Clinton's Opposition To Assault WeaponsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-74308652813585819852014-06-25T20:00:24.150+02:002014-06-25T20:00:24.150+02:00I guess you forgot it's the House that control...I guess you forgot it's the House that controls the money and it's the House that is Republican majority, and it's the House that voted not to fund the transfer of GITMO prisoners. It's not bipartisan just because some Democrats voted for it. A poor try at twisting what really happened. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51853831313993813702014-06-25T15:12:24.713+02:002014-06-25T15:12:24.713+02:00You suggest that its the Republicans' fault th...You suggest that its the Republicans' fault that Gitmo's closure was blocked when in reality, this is what the media calls bipartisan opposition to its closure. Its not nice to ignore the Democratic support. After all, that gives the people who voted for these Democratic legislators the impression that their elected officials were doing the right thing.<br /> A prime example of the checks and balances in our governmental system at work.<br /><br />"The vote was 90 to 6! This is a Democrat-controlled senate and they totally killed President Obama’s plan. Not only did they kill it, they passed blocking funds to be used for transferring prisoners to the United States. Thank you to all 90 senators who voted against the President!"<br /><br />Read more at http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2009/05/20/senate-votes-to-block-funding-for-gitmo-closure/#H0Cdg06kirqZeza1.99<br /><br /> ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-51672073097636666352014-06-24T23:58:37.271+02:002014-06-24T23:58:37.271+02:00?????
If 90 voted against it how can you say Repub...?????<br />If 90 voted against it how can you say Republicans voted against it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-25286376430714431192014-06-24T17:32:44.219+02:002014-06-24T17:32:44.219+02:00"So ask the Republicans why they are hypocrit..."So ask the Republicans why they are hypocrites on the GITMO issue."<br /><br />"On 20 May 2009, the United States Senate passed an amendment to the Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009 (H.R. 2346) by a 90–6 vote to block funds needed for the transfer or release of prisoners held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp<br /><br /> You are correct that congress passed legislation blocking the closure of Guantanamo. However, it seems that almost all of the Republicans voted against that bill while Democrats overwhelmingly in favor of the bill. So who's fault is it exactly? <br /><br />http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll348.xmlssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-36129658455990601642014-06-24T05:27:49.867+02:002014-06-24T05:27:49.867+02:00Since the Republicans (spearheaded by president Bu...Since the Republicans (spearheaded by president Bush) agreed they also wanted to close GITMO, Obama had no reason to expect Republicans to stop his efforts in closing GITMO. It was a VERY reasonable statement given the support of the Republicans, but then they backed away from their goal of closing GITMO, thus the president could not fulfill. So ask the Republicans why they are hypocrites on the GITMO issue. Yes, hopefully voters remember how the REpublicans have lied on so many issues, including causing American soldiers deaths. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84071477010585804762014-06-23T19:03:33.567+02:002014-06-23T19:03:33.567+02:00"A couple of poor examples."
Actuall..."A couple of poor examples."<br /><br /> Actually they were very good examples of Presidential campaign promises made and were unsuccessful, just like Bush's promise to renew the assault weapon ban. <br /> Politicians often make promises, as Kid Rock has sung of, writing checks their ass cant cash. Hopefully though the voters remember come reelection time as to how their promises worked out.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-46542661451846824292014-06-23T16:26:13.932+02:002014-06-23T16:26:13.932+02:00A couple of poor examples. GITMO could not be clos...A couple of poor examples. GITMO could not be closed because the Republican majority would not approve the money to transfer the prisoners. Even if you dismiss the leverage the NRA has over Republican representatives (I don't) Republicans still vote majority against gun laws aimed at safety and accountability allowing gun deaths and injuries to continue at an unacceptable rate. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-61896933727831146352014-06-22T11:39:30.734+02:002014-06-22T11:39:30.734+02:00You're right. At times my side portrays the N...You're right. At times my side portrays the NRA as all powerful and at others we make the opposite point, like in this article. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle.<br /><br />The point of this article is clear though. Your side often lies and exaggerates to take undeserved credit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-34325693174178906102014-06-22T02:21:59.029+02:002014-06-22T02:21:59.029+02:00"Although the NRA is often given the lion'..."Although the NRA is often given the lion's share of credit for the Republican takeover, American Prospect contributing editor (and former Media Matters staffer) Paul Waldman conducted an analysis that found even without the slight boost seen in NRA-backed Republican candidates in 1994, Republicans would have still taken over the House"<br />(Overall Waldman's analysis of recent House election cycles found the value of NRA spending or endorsements to be highly overrated as a benefit to candidates. Between 2004 and 2010, Waldman found that an NRA endorsement swung just four out of 1,038 House races."<br /><br /> A very interesting article Mike. especially since it seems to disprove the common contention of gun control advocates that all gun legislation is controlled by the all powerful NRA who drops off truck loads of money to politicians to vote against the wishes of their constituents and to the benefit of the evil gun manufacturers.<br /> So it would seem that if the corporate lobbying paradigm isn't working we might have to consider that they might actually be voting the wishes of their constituents, since if they didn't they would be voted out of office.<br /> As for Bush not being able to deliver on a campaign promise, that really isn't terribly new, for either side of the aisle. After all, didn't our current President make a promise or two that he couldn't deliver on? Gun control and closing Gitmo come to mind right off. Or it wouldn't surprise me if there was a little goo cop/bad cop being played around election time.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-61207134554330812312014-06-21T18:43:34.062+02:002014-06-21T18:43:34.062+02:00How can holding a view point terrorize people, unl...How can holding a view point terrorize people, unless those people are ignorant gun grabbing tard bags?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com