tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post4341942329544497737..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Fanatical Threatening Letter to Oregon Legislators by Mike VanderbeoghAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-66708533502218646102015-05-19T07:20:06.631+02:002015-05-19T07:20:06.631+02:00Jadegold's comment doesn't qualify for you...Jadegold's comment doesn't qualify for your defintion of "provoking someone (or some group) in an effort to try to get them to commit violence for your own political and social gain."<br /><br />And once again, knock off the gotcha attempts. I'm tired of them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-4759581602848363592015-05-18T22:23:29.124+02:002015-05-18T22:23:29.124+02:00Well, you dodged my question, so I guess I don'...Well, you dodged my question, so I guess I don't know whether or not you are consistent. I'll ask again: do you think Jade is abusing his 1A rights when he tries to provoke Mike Vanderbeogh to violence?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54468421593270124302015-05-18T08:44:44.333+02:002015-05-18T08:44:44.333+02:00Where have I been inconsistent? As Kurt rightly po...Where have I been inconsistent? As Kurt rightly pointed out, I'm using the word "abuse" a bit differently than it's usually used. Quite consistently, I'm raising the bar a bit higher than you guys like it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-3022982976645918402015-05-09T18:10:04.139+02:002015-05-09T18:10:04.139+02:00And you are quite inconsistent in the way you twis...And you are quite <b>in</b>consistent in the way you twist rights. Is provoking a gun owner who talks of violence an "abuse", or is it only an "abuse" when provoking Muslims?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-58098943445421372742015-05-09T14:53:27.172+02:002015-05-09T14:53:27.172+02:00Yes it is. I posted today the Fox News discussion ...Yes it is. I posted today the Fox News discussion in which they actually arrived at the unbelievable position that such is the purpose of the amendment. To offend and insult, that's what it's all about.<br /><br />This distortion reminds me of the way you guys have distorted the original intent of the 2A. Interestingly, you're consistent in your twisting of rights.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-89208395984664112462015-05-09T01:49:41.743+02:002015-05-09T01:49:41.743+02:00How is that not valid discussion? Is provoking so...How is that not valid discussion? Is provoking someone (or some group) in an effort to try to get them to commit violence for your own political and social gain "abuse of first amendment right"?TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-43316883944878985052015-05-08T19:01:36.955+02:002015-05-08T19:01:36.955+02:00FJ - read the link he provided in his comment. It...FJ - read the link he provided in his comment. It is an interesting article that California is spending quite a bit of money to track down illegal gun owners with very little to show for it.JimFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27989444022282714732015-05-08T18:53:15.686+02:002015-05-08T18:53:15.686+02:00FJ - if you lived in America before the civil war ...FJ - if you lived in America before the civil war would you be one of the people that turned in run away slaves or reported houses acting as safe havens on the underground railroad? All of those people were breaking the law and that was wrong at that time right?JimFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62865434192395385032015-05-08T16:26:48.809+02:002015-05-08T16:26:48.809+02:00Do you really support the right to civil disobedie...<i>Do you really support the right to civil disobedience in this case?</i><br /><br />I know you aren't asking me, but, oh, <b>hell yeah!!!</b><br /><br /><i>Let's just let law enforcement do what they need to do.</i><br /><br />Sure, when "what they need to do" becomes something vastly less evil than gun confiscation raids.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-26116980516729594952015-05-08T15:35:20.770+02:002015-05-08T15:35:20.770+02:00"Do you really support the right to civil dis..."Do you really support the right to civil disobedience in this case?"<br /><br /> Well FJ, what level of civil disobedience are we talking about? The portion Mike posted only discussed armed resistance when he also mentioned examples of disobedience that were nonviolent starting with just ignoring the law and then moving up to public displays of nonviolent disobedience such as the demonstration in Olympia Washington against the background check referendum.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54866906453225749082015-05-08T15:20:38.458+02:002015-05-08T15:20:38.458+02:00"Where did California try to confiscate guns?..."Where did California try to confiscate guns?"<br /><br /> FJ, the article I cited in my last comment discusses California's program of confiscating firearms of citizens who's names come up on a roster when they become prohibited persons for the myriad of reasons legislated in the state. <br /> They seem to be having problems keeping the numbers on the list at the same level. The numbers on the list in California are about half of the most conservative estimate of how many assault weapons weren't registered in Connecticut. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91337106470212158462015-05-08T10:02:35.599+02:002015-05-08T10:02:35.599+02:00Sarge,
Where did California try to confiscate gun...Sarge,<br /><br />Where did California try to confiscate guns? San Francisco? I have trouble keeping track of these things. No cops in my neighborhood unless called. More likely looking for someone in the I-5 corridor, also known as Rose Canyon. I mean in their flying copters.<br />Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-72661085680522402312015-05-08T09:10:59.611+02:002015-05-08T09:10:59.611+02:00Well Sarge,
Do you really support the right to ci...Well Sarge,<br /><br />Do you really support the right to civil disobedience in this case? We're not talking about drugs and alcohol. Guns are a fairly serious matter. Let's just let law enforcement do what they need to do. We are a nation of laws, as George Washington prescribed. We know that the U.S.A. is an open, free society. As far as the sheer numbers, leave that to the government and the authorities to figure out. I guess as far as the overwhelming number of pot smokers, we can thank Jerry Brown for understanding that. Prohibition was mostly a joke. Wait for your time to come.<br /><br />Some idiot who would threaten a member of the legislature is not worthy of consideration.<br /><br />And as far as California. We're doing fine. Thank you.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-91616718205993225162015-05-08T08:49:19.870+02:002015-05-08T08:49:19.870+02:00I'd really like to hear how you think that app...I'd really like to hear how you think that applies to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5519560527465410382015-05-08T08:47:11.125+02:002015-05-08T08:47:11.125+02:00TS, instead of that nya-nya-nya comment, do you ha...TS, instead of that nya-nya-nya comment, do you have something to contribute to the discussion?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-5707981245941232072015-05-07T18:02:46.700+02:002015-05-07T18:02:46.700+02:00"BTW, six other states have passed universal ..."BTW, six other states have passed universal background checks."<br /><br /> Lets see, there is another area where the number six comes up...., that's right, there are now six states that have Constitutional carry laws. So far. And there are still some states with bills in the pipeline yet. It will be interesting to see what happens with them.<br /><br />"Typically, desperate folks get more hyperboplic when the trends are against them."<br /><br /> Considering that the expansion of gun rights has been outpacing the attempts to restrict such rights, guess where most of the desperation lies? <br /> ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-82715086762772804882015-05-07T17:50:09.543+02:002015-05-07T17:50:09.543+02:00"Nice to know you support Mikey V's call ..."Nice to know you support Mikey V's call to kill congressmen."<br /><br /> Jade why do you jump on the old if I disagree with you I must agree with the other guy wagon? Especially when I was quite clear in regards to the use of force,<br /><br />"There's really no need for armed resistance, the political process has been pretty self correcting over the long run and individual rights have been expanding over that time, including gun rights."<br /><br />"Fact is, universal background checks are favored in OR--and the nation as a whole. Even among gunloons."<br /><br /> Refer to my previous comment regarding the political process. If the voters of the state want something, they will eventually get it. One has but to look at the midterm elections and the expansion of gun rights to see that.ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-15883290448885321312015-05-07T17:35:32.878+02:002015-05-07T17:35:32.878+02:00BTW, six other states have passed universal backgr...BTW, six other states have passed universal background checks. Where was Mikey V then?<br /><br />Typically, desperate folks get more hyperboplic when the trends are against them.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-38065254138470797842015-05-07T17:32:12.834+02:002015-05-07T17:32:12.834+02:00"grandiose victimism"...If that aint the..."grandiose victimism"...If that aint the pot calling the kettle black....thanks for the laugh Mike?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-53006970379042778122015-05-07T17:32:03.611+02:002015-05-07T17:32:03.611+02:00You manage to completely miss the point.
Fact is,...You manage to completely miss the point.<br /><br />Fact is, universal background checks are favored in OR--and the nation as a whole. Even among gunloons.<br /><br />Nice to know you support Mikey V's call to kill congressmen.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42231122374509455352015-05-07T15:46:56.278+02:002015-05-07T15:46:56.278+02:00I wonder if Mike considers it an "abuse of fi...I wonder if Mike considers it an "abuse of first amendment rights" to provoke Mike Vanderbeogh.TShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667036856347626234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-1464846683950546702015-05-07T15:35:41.851+02:002015-05-07T15:35:41.851+02:00As the letter mentions Jade, so far, in the face o...As the letter mentions Jade, so far, in the face of widespread noncompliance in some states and open civil disobedience, the powers that be don't seem to be anxious to push things. Perhaps due to the sheer numbers <br /><br />"No one has anything close to definitive figures, but the most conservative estimates place the number of unregistered assault weapons well above 50,000, and perhaps as high as 350,000."<br /><br />http://articles.courant.com/2014-02-10/business/hc-haar-gun-registration-felons-20140210_1_assault-weapons-rifles-gun-registration-law<br /><br /> Just recently, we got to see that the process of gun confiscation isn't efficient or cheap even when there is a list of owners available. <br /><br />"California discovers it’s really expensive to confiscate people’s guns"<br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/05/05/california-discovers-its-really-expensive-to-confiscate-peoples-guns/?wprss=rss_national<br /><br /> There's really no need for armed resistance, the political process has been pretty self correcting over the long run and individual rights have been expanding over that time, including gun rights. ssgmarkcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480230040370709682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79027585643315077592015-05-07T13:08:03.927+02:002015-05-07T13:08:03.927+02:00Mikey V. and his fellow retards talk a big game. ...Mikey V. and his fellow retards talk a big game. But when the rubber meets the road, they'll meekly queue up to comply.Jadegoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219212637582238275noreply@blogger.com