tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post7477553385441697524..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Islamophobia Fire BombingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-81706372626595363382012-01-15T03:28:12.269+01:002012-01-15T03:28:12.269+01:00A suicide bomber killed 53 Shiite muslims today in...A suicide bomber killed 53 Shiite muslims today in Iraq. I wonder if it was a right wing whacko? After all, it would be ludicrous to think otherwise.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-55143612423355917662012-01-11T00:18:19.957+01:002012-01-11T00:18:19.957+01:0010 muslims including 3 schoolboys were killed toda...10 muslims including 3 schoolboys were killed today in Iraq. The police suspects it was sunni muslims but that is just ludicrous. Anyone know what Glenn Beck was doing today?FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-871453523424793022012-01-09T17:48:16.727+01:002012-01-09T17:48:16.727+01:00I never said that all religions are not guilty of ...I never said that all religions are not guilty of doing so. All I said was that statistically, muslims are attacked by other muslims far more than they are violently attacked by right wing talk radio listeners. You said that was "ludicrous" when indeed it is not.<br /><br />So, please show us some of those incidents in the news where right wing conspirators are attacking muslims.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-21859174431407596122012-01-09T06:39:05.636+01:002012-01-09T06:39:05.636+01:00And we have how many instances of Christians killi...And we have how many instances of Christians killing Christians? Northern Ireland ring a bell, FWM?<br /><br />FWM, the tribal and sect violence in other countries is not mirrored by similar sect based violence in this country. WE don't have that kind of occurrence between different varieties of Muslims. We DO have some pretty hateful things being said in the current political campaigns though about Mormons, especially distrust from other sects of Christianity, especially a problem with the more extreme, crazy fundies among the evenagelical Christians..<br /><br />What we do have is violence against Muslims by non-Muslims - mostly right wing Christians, engaged in hate crimes.<br /><br />It is widely believed by those who study the problems of hate crimes, including those directed at Muslims, or those believed to be Muslims is under reported.<br /><br /><i>The United States has long been systematically monitoring anti-Muslim crimes. For the reporting year<br />2009, Federal Bureau of Investigation reported 107 “anti-Islamic” incidents, registering a slight increase<br />from 2008 (105)27.</i><br /><br />per the March 2011 Violence Against Muslims report from Human Rights First.dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-24663563653356512332012-01-09T04:45:50.756+01:002012-01-09T04:45:50.756+01:00Reuters says Sunni Muslims killed 13 Shiite Muslim...Reuters says Sunni Muslims killed 13 Shiite Muslims in Syria Saturday but we all know that is just ludicrous.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-50055532717918373762012-01-06T17:04:11.418+01:002012-01-06T17:04:11.418+01:00Firebombs killed 72 Shiite Muslims in Bagdad yeste...Firebombs killed 72 Shiite Muslims in Bagdad yesterday. Sunni Muslims are suspected, but that is a "ludicrous notion as that would never happen. Maybe it was really Glenn Beck and a phantom band of right wing hate mongers.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-62259067108651452142012-01-04T01:36:02.682+01:002012-01-04T01:36:02.682+01:00News reports today indicate that this may just be ...News reports today indicate that this may just be one man who had a personal grievance against his targets, and that however insane that may be, it was not directed against a religion.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-23179681104776048502012-01-03T12:02:08.292+01:002012-01-03T12:02:08.292+01:00C'mon, this isn't the murder of a black dr...C'mon, this isn't the murder of a black drug dealer that you can say was probably done by another black. When you've got a bunch of Muslim targets it's safe to assume racism.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-70211260682640861272012-01-02T22:26:49.544+01:002012-01-02T22:26:49.544+01:00"That is stupid, ludicrous, lacking any basis...<i>"That is stupid, ludicrous, lacking any basis in fact. It is one of the most stupid remarks, one of the most bigoted notions, that you have ever written here in a comment."</i><br /><br />You don't have to like it but how can you say it is ludicrous or bigoted?<br /><br />First, have you ever read any history? Are you not aware that muslims have been killing each other since the religion was founded? They kill each other's children in school attacks. They bomb each other, they fight each other. I am sorry if the truth is repugnant but ludicrous is hardly accurate. How many bombing attacks by right wing conservatives against muslim targets can you come up with? <br /><br />What I said was statistically accurate, not ludicrous.<br /><br />Secondly, I am hardly a bigot against muslims though I am not a fan of terrorists no matter what their religion is. I am not one of those that believe that every muslim is a terrorist however I am not going to dismiss the prevalence of terrorists being muslim nor refuse to mention it because it is not politically correct.<br /><br />Finally, I have relatives that are muslim that I love very much. In fact, I had 21 people at my table for Thanksgiving and 1/3 of them were muslim. <br /><br />You are well aware that my posts can be flippant, arrogant or just plain full of shit but you will not find me making bigoted comments--at least not based on hate or bigotry anyway. <br /><br />The posted incident can very well turn out to be done by right wing conservatives. You could even show me a picture of Rush Limbaugh flinging a Starbuck's bottle and I will acknowledge that you were correct. However, my statement still stands, if a muslim group is attacked anywhere in the world in a visible, violent manner, the odds are that it was another muslim group. That is fact, not ludicrous, not bigotry.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-77595161270052065462012-01-02T20:47:46.384+01:002012-01-02T20:47:46.384+01:00I fail to see the difference between your editoria...I fail to see the difference between your editorializing about Geller and Beck and FWM's opinion when nobody knows who is responsible for the dirty deeds. Talk about jumping to conclusions! Sheesh!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-79530656752448144022012-01-02T19:40:11.839+01:002012-01-02T19:40:11.839+01:00Dog Gone,
I agree that this is a heinous act, and...Dog Gone,<br /><br />I agree that this is a heinous act, and I hope that the purpetrators are caught soon. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who wishes to come here and share in our freedoms, participate in our society, and live a life is welcome. Anyone born here who chooses to worship in a way that does not harm others is welcome to do so. That's the principle of America that we're still trying to live up to.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-52062703018597797842012-01-02T19:12:11.824+01:002012-01-02T19:12:11.824+01:00FatWhiteMan said...
I hope they catch whoever ...<i>FatWhiteMan said...<br /> I hope they catch whoever is doing this <b> but really the odds are that they are other Muslims rather than some right wing conservative somewhere.<br /> January 2, 2012 4:05 PM </b></i><br /><br />That is stupid, ludicrous, lacking any basis in fact. It is one of the most stupid remarks, one of the most bigoted notions, that you have ever written here in a comment.<br /><br />It is indefensible.<br /><br />There is an overwhelming number of false statements made by the right - notably by Pamela Geller, Jihad Watch, Glenn Beck and others - that have incited people to behave badly towards Muslims here in the U.S.<br /><br />While there are plenty of instances of internecine violence between different sects of Islam in other countries, that has NOT been the case in the U.S.<br /><br />So........what odds are YOU talking about?dog gonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151618317070878675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-16304522911239996422012-01-02T16:05:57.815+01:002012-01-02T16:05:57.815+01:00I hope they catch whoever is doing this but really...I hope they catch whoever is doing this but really the odds are that they are other Muslims rather than some right wing conservative somewhere.FatWhiteManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946272184958991397noreply@blogger.com