tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post8064026982211066285..comments2024-02-05T03:41:13.688+01:00Comments on Mikeb302000: Tommy Marth, The Killers Saxophonist Kills Himself with a GunAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-27965897227891386002012-05-10T13:15:35.873+02:002012-05-10T13:15:35.873+02:00Guns are practically ubiquitous now, thanks to you...Guns are practically ubiquitous now, thanks to you and your friends and your leaders in the movement. This could be changed without total bans, then some of the people who get depressed and say "fuck it," might not have a gun handy to do the job right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-84682955362744072572012-05-01T16:22:27.364+02:002012-05-01T16:22:27.364+02:00No, it doesn't. It argues for responsibility....No, it doesn't. It argues for responsibility. Besides, since anyone potentially can commit suicide, how would you eliminate the risk without banning guns? Again, you may think that you don't want to ban guns, but that's because you don't think through the implications of your proposals.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-83134242697887799872012-05-01T11:52:26.546+02:002012-05-01T11:52:26.546+02:00Yeah, that sound right. The cry-for-help ones rep...Yeah, that sound right. The cry-for-help ones repeat, but the real attempts don't.<br /><br />Doesn't that argue for restriction of guns?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-42082865567792706012012-05-01T01:02:43.442+02:002012-05-01T01:02:43.442+02:00It has been my experience that those “cry for help...It has been my experience that those “cry for help” attempts (like taking pills or making cuts on their wrists) are often repeated. Do you agree?TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-673964046306359602012-04-30T17:36:29.844+02:002012-04-30T17:36:29.844+02:00As others have suggested here, some suicide "...As others have suggested here, some suicide "attempts" are a cry for help and not a serious effort. There were a few histrionic types like that in my high school. We all knew that they didn't really mean it, but they got attention anyway. Anyone who uses a gun who doesn't really intend to die is an idiot.<br /><br />But with regard to your question, a person can wear himself out by caring too much or too loosely. Many people cannot be helped because they refuse to listen to good sense. I've seen this with many students. If they would just take a few simple steps, they'd pass the class, but they always have one or another excuse for why they can't. There comes a point at which others just have to back away and leave people responsible for themselves.<br /><br />I'll help anyone whom I can help when the person in need will succeed after the help, but it's not my job to sustain people who refuse to help themselves.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-65118543220515306142012-04-30T11:09:57.812+02:002012-04-30T11:09:57.812+02:00No, I don't.No, I don't.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-13551901194791299222012-04-30T11:09:33.992+02:002012-04-30T11:09:33.992+02:00How would you possible know that? You're makin...How would you possible know that? You're making shit up which supports your hands-off mania about guns.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-38134709443207953332012-04-30T11:08:23.771+02:002012-04-30T11:08:23.771+02:00Greg, are you such a cold-hearted bastard that you...Greg, are you such a cold-hearted bastard that you can't have a little compassion for people who commit suicide? Are you so rigid in your obsession with freedom and choice that you fail to see the big picture?<br /><br />Many people who commit suicide or attempt to do so are suffering from a TEMPORARY problem. The very fact that they take such a drastic decision indicates that in many cases they are not of sound mind.<br /><br />Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem - in most cases.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-17268708014517546862012-04-30T09:56:15.983+02:002012-04-30T09:56:15.983+02:00Ok, Mike. So you say people who survive suicide a...Ok, Mike. So you say people who survive suicide attempts express a desire to live afterwards. You also compared gun attempts with razors and pills. So would you say those razor/pill people also don’t repeat their attempts? You know where I am going with this, don’t you?TSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-69804547456038411142012-04-29T14:30:15.100+02:002012-04-29T14:30:15.100+02:00Suicide method is self-selected. If you really wa...Suicide method is self-selected. If you really want to die, you use a gun. If you just want attention, you use pills or a razor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6314891743204395487.post-54806838267942462712012-04-29T12:43:05.126+02:002012-04-29T12:43:05.126+02:00Choice plays a major role in suicides. Using a li...Choice plays a major role in suicides. Using a little common sense, it's easy enough to figure how this works. But common sense doesn't work for the freedom-loving crowd. They have too much bias for that.<br /><br />Based on the theory that many people who exercise choice don't mean what they do or are incompetent in their choices, we can conclude that they would be grateful to live in a world without choice. Common sense tells us that taking away choices will make us all safer.<br /><br />There--I translated the authoritarian message into English for you.Greg Camphttp://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com