Thursday, August 28, 2008

Death for Duncan

CNN reports on the sentencing to death of Joseph Edward Duncan III.

I wrote about this before, expressing my sincere condolences to the family of the victims.

Duncan showed no reaction other than smiling as the verdict was passed to the judge.

He took Dylan and the boy's then-8-year-old sister, Shasta, to a remote western Montana campsite where he raped, tortured and threatened them before shooting Dylan in the head and burning his body. Jurors viewed horrifying video Duncan made of him sexually abusing, torturing and hanging Dylan until the boy lost consciousness.

I guess everybody is so outraged at what he did that open-minded discussion about capital punishment is out of the question. I can only repeat what I said before: what I can't accept is the government doing it and dressing it up as something justified and wholesome and legal.


  1. "what I can't accept is the government doing it and dressing it up as something justified and wholesome and legal."

    Well "wholesome" is a judgment call, I think it is, you think it isn't, I won't bother with an argument as I totally get it. As for "Justified" and "Legal", the death sentence was on the books before, during and after he committed his crimes, and he was given full due process of law (and he'll have far too many opportunities to appeal is sentence) so that's definitive "Legal", and definitive "Justified"...and frankly the nature of that I see as wholesome...but I can see how some might think it as barbaric or cold-blooded.

    I don't agree.

    Also I think its good for society as a whole...I know you don't agree, but THAT we can debate!

  2. What if he got life in prison instead and they told everybody he's a chomo and he gets beat to death by fellow lifers like Dahmer?

    May as well cut to the chase. He's not long for this earth any way you look at it.

    Lethal injection or being stabbed and beaten to death in prison, maybe with some rapes along the way, in short order. Those were his two options and if you believe otherwise you are daft.

  3. Further evidence that some of the herd needs culling. You don't fix these sorts of people with "self-esteem enhancement classes" and vocational training.

  4. At least Duncan isn't a black man who's borderline retarded. This way the bleeding-heart liberals like me can't say it's discrimination. But, that was never my complaint anyway. Mine is simply that killing is wrong. "Culling" the herd should no longer be necessary for civilized human beings. We have other ways of neutralizing the threat these sick men pose.

  5. "Culling" the herd should no longer be necessary for civilized human beings.

    We aren't talking about a civilized human being here, so I don't see your point.

    I'm not proselytizing active Eugenics, exactly, just being pragmatic about it. Defective animals are defective animals and some of them can't be fixed. Just how it is.

  6. "Culling" the herd should no longer be necessary for civilized human beings.

    I meant us.

  7. I'm still inclined to disagree. You can't be for the ideas of evolution being positive and survival of the fittest as a scientific thinker and then exempt humans from it through societal programs and protections that protect the dumb and defective from both themselves and outside predation.

    Our current society actually breeds a higher percentage of losers and people of low IQ rather than encourages the breeding of good stock.

    Crackhead low IQ ghetto/white trash moms have 5 kids and educated high IQ women and men rarely have more than one or two children, and often don't have any at all.

    I personally think some gay people should find a way to reproduce, even if it might be contrary to their lifestyle choice. Wouldn't you rather have Turing's genes still in the gene pool, what about Eric Allman and Marshall Kirk McKusick rather than a person like Duncan's genes?

    Culling the herd will no longer be necessary, well, never, because there will always be negative mutations in the gene pool that go along with the positive ones. Evolution doesn't work if you don't let the broken fail and die.

  8. I lost taste for the death penalty when George W Bush, as Texas Gov, refused to commute the sentence for Karla Fay Tucker. Instead he mocked her using a falsetto voice to his staff. Killing is killing and it needs to stop with us, society. If left to live, Duncan's own karma would determine his destiny.

  9. Thanks for that last comment. I hope we hear from you some more around here.