Wednesday, December 19, 2012

NRA Supports Felons

So  much for the "law-abiding citizen" BS:


Enraged, Mr. Zettergren ordered Mr. Robinson to leave. After a brief confrontation, Mr. Zettergren shot him in the temple at point-blank range with a Glock-17 semiautomatic handgun. He then forced Mr. Robinson’s hysterical fiancée, at gunpoint, to help him dispose of the body in a nearby river.
It was the first homicide in more than 30 years in the small town of Endicott, in eastern Washington. But for a judge’s ruling two months before, it would probably never have happened.
For years, Mr. Zettergren had been barred from possessing firearms because of two felony convictions. He had a history of mental health problems and friends said he was dangerous. Yet Mr. Zettergren’s gun rights were restored without even a hearing, under a state law that gave the judge no leeway to deny the application as long as certain basic requirements had been met. Mr. Zettergren, then 36, wasted no time retrieving several guns he had given to a friend for safekeeping.

Key excerpt:

 While previously a small number of felons were able to reclaim their gun rights, the process became commonplace in many states in the late 1980s, after Congress started allowing state laws to dictate these reinstatements — part of an overhaul of federal gun laws orchestrated by theNational Rifle Association. 

The NRA is a Terrorist Organization


Some key excerpts:

Consider that jihadist terrorists have only been able to kill 17 Americans in the United States since 9/11. Meanwhile, some 88,000 Americans died in gun violence from 2003 and 2010, according to the U.N. study.
That means that in the past decade, an American residing in the United States was around 5,000 times more likely to be killed by a fellow citizen armed with a gun than by a terrorist inspired by Osama bin Laden.
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 Last year, some 3,000 Afghan civilians died in the Afghan War out of a population of 30 million, which makes the civilian death rate from the Afghan war 1 in 10,000.
Yet residents of New Orleans are being killed at a rate that is six times that of Afghan civilians killed in that war. New Orleans had 199 murders last year, or 6 for every 10,000 residents.

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Frankly, if you see an NRA bumpersticker--it's no different that a bumpersticker  reading "I *heart* Al Qaeda."

Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Finally a Car Comparison That Makes Sense

Joe Scarborough Changes Sides

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Robert Farago Debates Jon Rosenthal

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Naturally the sycophants who comment over there thought Robert did really well. I didn't.

For one thing, he too quickly resorted to the "2nd Amendment - it's our right" defense. Saying that gun rights cannot be infringed because it says so in the Constitution is pretty weak, as Rosenthal pointed out.

The other major weakness in Farago's comments was all that emphasis on how criminals will always get guns. I covered this bogus pro-gun argument at length in this post. To back up his position Robert says because we have "150 million guns out there in circulation" there's no way we can stop the bad guys from getting them.

Well, for one thing, those guns are not out there in circulation.  They are, every single one of them, the lawful property of someone. The major ways that guns slip from lawful gun owners to criminals can be addressed through proper gun control laws. This is what Robert conveniently skips over. And this is why we need those laws.

I'm afraid Robert Farago didn't do so well in this little debate.  At first I was surprised he even posted it on his site, but then when I read the comments I remembered with his following there was nothing to lose.

What did you think about it?  I'd like to hear.

Did Video Games Play a Role in the Connecticut Shooting?



I have to say, any discussion of the tragic shooting in Connecticut that leaves out gun availability and gun control is a bit lacking, yet what the Lt. Colonel said about video games was compelling.

What do you think?  Please leave a comment.

Sen. Joe Manchin - Everything Should Be on the Table

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