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Except for that pesky 2nd Amendment, because guns are scary!
Isn't it funny how people like Mike want to use their 1st amendment rights to call for the abolition of everyone's 2nd amendment rights.Mike-- that is what we are talking about, not guns, but rights. No matter how you phrase it, you are wanting to abolish our right to keep and bear arms.Prove me wrong, prove that the "reasonable restrictions" you want - but never really spell out--won't take away my rights?Read the Constitution, read the document and see how carefully it limits the powers of the government.
Read the Constitution, read the document and see how carefully it limits the powers of the government.Well, you must be reading the OLD version of the Constitution, pal. I enjoyed reading the old version myself. Great document, solid principles.Then came the Executive orders of the Bush/Cheney Administration...
Mud,I am probably going to surprise you a bit but I agree.Here's the disagreement, just because some/much trashing of the Constitution has occurred that doesn't mean we have to allow the rest of it to be trashed.
What's that adage: One man's trash is another's treasure?
I don't really understnad your Use (misuse?) of that addage, Mud.Are you implying that parts of the constitution are trash to you?
How about the other adage? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We'll maybe some of those old Amendments need a good overhaul, no, not the 1st or the 4th, in fact most of them can probably stand. Seriously, the idea of bearing arms seems like an incongruous element among such intangible things as privacy and freedom of speech. Maybe the whole thing is built on a misunderstanding.
Mike,That is the problem, you refuse to accept that the 2nd amendment is just as valid today as the 1st.Did they foresee Television, Radio, Internet...but the 1st applies.Did they foresee the United Nations, N.A.T.O., other extra-national organizations...but the 4th amendment applies.Earlier in reply to my comment you said that you might arm yourself and your family in response to the rapes.In 2006, my city had 192 rapes, the city next door had 247....isn't it reasonable to arm?In 2006, there were 890 robberies in my city and next door there were 1,417 isn't it reasonable to arm?In 2006 there were 4,042 burglaries in my city and 8,998 in the city next door. Some of those occurred when the owner was home, isn't it reasonable to arm?Luckily, I don't have to depend on your or anyone else's permission to take the precautions I feel are necessary. How is the right to free speech "intangible" if you can't print what you want on this blog...isn't that a tangible thing?How is The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects intangible? My home seems pretty solid to me?How about the right not to have a soldier living in my home without my permission...that seems pretty solid also. The right to assemble....ask all those liberal "Million' Whatever marches....are those people phantoms?Face it Mike, you are wrong on this issue.The facts are against you, the logic is against you, the law is even against you. Shouldn't something that is supported by 48 states tell you that you are on the wrong side?