The discussion that followed indicated that not all pro-gun folks agree, but many do. These are the same guys who generally believe in harsher treatment of criminals, even young ones guilty of their first offense. The problems of overcrowding in prisons and the near non-existence of rehabilitation does not concern these law-and-order types. This video made me think about all that.
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"The problems of overcrowding in prisons and the near non-existence of rehabilitation does not concern these law-and-order types."
ReplyDeleteNot necessarily true. I'm all for building more prisons if overcrowding is a problem. Not only will it help keep criminals off the street, it will also create more jobs.
Also repealing some of our archaic gun and drug laws would free up some prison space.
As for rehabilitation, you're treating criminality as if it were a disease where all that is needed is the right kind of "treatment" and the criminal can be placed back into society.
That may work with young, first-time offenders, but for older, habitual offenders, it's completely pointless. These are people who have made crime into a lifestyle and are more often than not, completely unrepentant for doing so. For those types of offenders, I say keep them locked up. Not only for the safety of society, but their own safety as well. Because it's only a matter of time before they come across an armed citizen who will guarantee they'll never go through the criminal justice system again.
Great Points, Red.
ReplyDeleteAlso you don't need to feed and house executed inmates.
Also inmates don't like being executed, so that might potentially "cure" the "Disease", if not it does solve the recidivism rate.
Cessation of the ridiculous "War on (some) Drugs" would go a very long way to freeing up prison space for perpetrators of real crimes--you know, the ones that actually have victims (ending the War on Guns would also be very beneficial).
ReplyDeleteIf, after that (and I know it's not happening any time soon--this is a hypothetical), prisons are still overcrowded, I might suggest that keeping criminals comfortable can be safely moved to near the bottom of our list of priorities. If people want more than a few square feet of living space, they ought refrain from committing crimes against their fellow man.
In general I agree with letting out the non-violent and keeping in the violent.
ReplyDeleteBut we cannot support doing the second unless we also do the first.
MikeB,
ReplyDeleteDo you enjoy showing your inability to think to all?
We can do both if we choose to...all we have to do is build more prisons.
Build more prisons? Is that really a good idea in the country that already has the highest percentage of its population behind bars?
ReplyDeleteDidn't say it was a good idea.
ReplyDeleteJust pointing out how you can't think.
Personally, As I've said many times I think it is time to reform the drug laws and let people in jail on possession charges out, but you seem to ignore that.
You said we can't do both, just proved that we could.
Hey, I have an idea. Maybe instead of letting violent murderous criminals go, we kill them back (shades of Ron White--get the CD).
Instead of letting violent punks out of prison and sending them back every couple of years, how about we keep them there.
You said we can't do both, we can. Keep the violent ones in prison and watch the crime rate drop.
Then there will be fewer violent criminals out on the streets to teach a new generation.
Then liberalize the laws concerning owning and carrying a firearm. Liberalize the laws regarding "Stand your Ground" and watch as the thugs who don't get the message not survive. Takes care of more of the problem.
Lock up the ones that survive. Simple, isn't it?
"Build more prisons? Is that really a good idea in the country that already has the highest percentage of its population behind bars?"
ReplyDeleteIt is if we can avoid events like this:
http://barackslies.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-is-why-you-lock-them-up.html
AztecRed, I'll admit one thing, at least you have an answer. I don't, I'm stuck in the problem.
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