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Seems fair to me. It's no worse than Bloomberg's Gun Show Undercover.
I'd say it's a lot worse to leave a valuable car running to lure thieves than to pretend your a criminal buying guns. The car thieves weren't there till the car was put in their path, while Bloomberg's guys went to the place where the crooked gun sellers were set up and doing business already. No comparison.
Mikeb302000: However, the dealers may not have been selling any guns illegal until Bloomberg's guys enticed them. I would say the comparison is valid.Because I know JadeGold is going to come in and twist up what we say let me end with this: I do not condone the selling of guns that happened at the gun shows in Bloomberg's "sting". I also do not condone the sting itself, which was also illegal. I am all for prosecuting all involved.
I agree with MikeB on this one--there is no comparison. The Las Vegas investigation used a legitimate police operation while Bloomberg ran an illegal operation that didn't get one criminal arrested since the only real evidence of criminal activity was on the part of the investigators and the mayor.
Comments such as Ruff's make me laugh. It goes to show the double standard he and his fellow gunloons employ.He claims the gun dealers were "enticed" to break the law. Well, guess what? Virtually all criminals (save for the deranged psychpaths) are "enticed" to commit crimes. It's not an excuse. So when your 16 yo calls you from the police station saying he was arrested for trying to sell a couple grams of heroin--are you seriously going to excuse it by saying he was enticed?I also hear the meme that Bloombergs sting are illegal. Yet, to date, not a charge has been filed. Why? The answer is pretty apparent.--JadeGold
Another point being missed by the gunloons is that an FFL is predicated on the assumption the FFL holder understands the law and is law-abiding. It is a position of trust and responsibility.So, if someone comes up to a FFL and says he wants to buy a gun but that he can't pass the background check---there should only be one response: 'you cannot purchase the firearm.'Yet, look at gunloons like FWM who denies the FFLs did anything wrong and, despite not a single charge being filed against Bloomberg, continues to say the sting was illegal.--JadeGold
Mikeb30200:I think that what you fail to see is that stealing a car is equivalent to selling weapons to folks. Because, guns and cars don't kill people, people with guns and cars kill people. Besides driving is a privilege and owning guns is a right. Did I forget anything?
I've always wondered about prostitution stings. I mean, who doesn't want a 5-dollar blow job from an undercover policewoman?
Jeez, phuck, I guess that would depend on the policewoman,
JadeGold: What double standard? I said I thought they should be prosecuted. Go back and read it again, this time maybe a little slower.
Once again Jade shows his ignorance of what he is preaching about: None of the so called "dealers" in the Bloomberg videos were FFL holders. None. Nada. These were all private sellers that Bloomberg's goofballs labeled as "dealers", not actual dealers as defined by law.Further, here is why there were no charges filed and why it was only a publicity stunt and nothing more: For a crime to have been committed in those videos, then the "investigators" would have to be prohibited persons. If they were indeed prohibited persons and it was known to the "dealers" that they were prohibited persons, then a crime was committed on both sides of the transactions. However, since the buyers were not prohibited persons and could legally purchase the firearms, then neither they nor the sellers committed a crime. Now pay attention Jade, here is some simple math for you: no crime committed = no charges filed.The whole "sting" was a dog and pony show and technically, the only charges that could even be levied would be against the investigators for making straw purchases on behalf of Bloomberg.Sorry to disappoint the gun control loons, but they watched a bunch of videos of zero crimes being committed.
phuck owes me a new keyboard. He made me spit coffee all over mine.
@Laci - Hey, at least you know the policewoman is clean.@FatWhiteMan - My bad man.