Thursday, February 4, 2010

Detroit Imam Shot 20 Times

Zorro provided the link for this incredible story of police brutality. The San Francisco Chronicle reports.

A Muslim prayer leader accused of encouraging his followers to commit violence against the U.S. government was shot 20 times during an FBI raid at a suburban warehouse last fall, according to an autopsy report released Monday.

The autopsy was completed a month after Luqman Ameen Abdullah's death, but Dearborn police were granted a delay in releasing the results while they investigate the Oct. 28 shooting, said Dr. Carl Schmidt, Wayne County's chief medical examiner.

Abdullah, 53, died instantly, he said. The FBI says agents were trying to arrest Abdullah at a Dearborn warehouse when he resisted and fired a gun.

Schmidt said Abdullah's body was handcuffed and on the floor of a semitrailer when his investigator arrived at the shooting scene.

As Zorro mentioned, the man was handcuffed when this took place. I wonder why it's taking so long for the investigation to determine if indeed there had been excessive force?

Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was the imam of a small mosque in Detroit that served mostly black Muslims.

What do you think about these black guys who convert to Islam? Back during the Black-Panther days of the 60s, I used to think of them as "fake muslims." This idea was reinforced when some years later I read the famous autobiography of Malcolm X in which he describes his pilgrimage to Mecca. He said it came as a surprise to him that there were Muslims of all colors. It caused him to rethink his anti-white position, blaming the white man no longer worked for him.

More recently I've come to personally know Muslim people from Muslim countries, ones who practice their religion. All this has combined to make me think that the so-called black muslims in America are more often than not just poor people rebelling against the oppression of being black in America, which makes sense, but it's as far away from true Islam as the suicide bomber who thinks he's religions.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.


  1. I'm waiting for jadegold to come in here and say that gun owners don't care because the person who was shot was black. Looks like it's not going to happen.

    "Back during the Black-Panther days of the 60s, I used to think of them as "fake muslims."

    Some were, some weren't. The Nation of Islam is definitely fake Islam. It's really nothing more than the black equivalent of the Christian Identity movement. A bunch of anti-semitic, racists.

    The NOI also has a very active recruiting system in America's prisons, giving birth to what is called, "Prislam": A mixture of the NOI's usual hatred and the criminal proclivity of the average felon.

    So it's more than just "poor people rebelling against the oppression of being black in America". It's a pretty dangerous movement that's already given us such characters as Theodore GX and Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad.

  2. poor people rebelling against the oppression of being black in America

    What "oppression" would that be?

  3. I don't really have an opinion on the religion questions--religion ain't my department.

    As for the shooting itself, the available information isn't much, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this debacle turns out to have been more a case of gross incompetence on the part of the feds, rather than religious or racial hatred.

    Whether or not that would make it less inexcusable is, of course, a subjective question.