Saturday, February 6, 2010

So Many Loopholes reports on the newest "loophole" to be discovered.

IMAGINE HAVING YOUR driver's license revoked in Pennsylvania but then being able to get one in Florida - through the mail - that must then be honored here.

Now imagine it happens with guns. Because it does.

Pennsylvania residents who are denied a license to carry a concealed weapon, or have theirs revoked, have found a loophole that allows them to get a license from another state that must be honored here.

"They could be disapproved here and they could apply in Florida and we are not notified," said Philadelphia Police Lt. Lisa King, commander of the Gun Permit Unit. "So if we are not giving them a permit to carry, how is Florida allowed to override our decision?"

What's your opinion? Why do you think the pro-gun crowd are so adept at discovering loopholes in the law? Is it because the laws are bad? Or is it because many of them are border-line criminals to start out with? What else do you call people who find ways to skirt the laws?

Of course Sebastian was on the story, being the voice of Pro-Gun Pennsylvania. He summed it up like this, pretty much what I said about blaming the laws.’s the discriminatory abuses in Philadelphia that drive people to get Florida Licenses.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.


  1. What does borderline criminality have to do with anything. Exploiting a "loophole" in the law is, after all, complying with the law.

  2. I have to agree with Zerro on that one.

    The real question is addressing something which allows for someone with a revoked licence in PA to acquire a licence in FL.

  3. What else do you call people who find ways to skirt the laws?


  4. I have to agree with Zerro on that one.

    You're freaking me out.

  5. You don't know the half of it!

    And I'm not telling!

  6. It's Sebastian. Not Sebastian, Sebastard, or Sebasturd. Thank you.

  7. Look. People are being denied permits for things such as being late on payments and parking tickets. To make it out that these big bad criminals are getting permits despite Philly's laws is downright wrong. If someone has been arrested and let go for any reason, they aren't a criminal. If they've been convicted, they shouldn't be getting a permit from Florida anyway since Florida is more restrictive, a point Mikey doesn't bring up, but the article did. If they can legally have a Florida permit, and that allows them to legally carry a handgun in PA, that's not skirting the law. A police officer who conducts an interview and decides you shouldn't have a gun, as I understand it, is breaking PA law.

    Borderline criminals? Wow.

  8. Sebastian, Sorry I was typing too fast just like you did.

    "It's Sebastian. Not Sebastian"

    You're the last one I would do that to, even if I used such tactics, which I do not.

  9. What's borderline criminality? :D

  10. MicroBalrog, I use the phrase "borderline criminal" to refer to those folks who find ways to circumvent the law. You know the type. Sometimes they sell guns to folks who don't need to pass a background check, turning a blind eye and shrugging the shoulders in an expression of "it's not my problem."

  11. Yeah Mike, people who "circumvent the law" without you know, actually BREAKING the law......

    Borderline criminals my ass. You're either breaking the law or not. If not then you're not a criminal.

    Then again, you're opposed to presumption of innocence & due process so your view here is unsurprising.