Wednesday, September 19, 2012

More on the Kansas City Stadium Shooting

The Kansas City Star has a follow up in the story we posted last week in which I rightly guessed that it was domestic violence.
Kansas City police identified a 40-year-old man who shot a former girlfriend at Kauffman Stadium on Friday before killing himself as Marcus L. Collins of Raytown. 

Collins drove into the stadium’s Parking Lot A about 3:20 p.m. Friday and apparently summoned the woman, who was riding a golf cart, to his car. When she approached on foot, he shot at her several times and she tried to run, police said. She was struck at least once in the abdomen.

Collins, who never got out of his car, then shot himself.

Police said Collins had known the woman about 20 years and they recently had begun dating. 

Police said the two apparently had a falling-out and had not been speaking lately. They did not have any history of domestic violence, and Friday’s shootings shocked relatives on both sides.
You don't suppose anyone would say that domestic violence must take place in the home, do you? We have some pretty argumentative commenters around here, but I think even they can admit this was a case of domestic violence.

Will they also agree that guns are bad news for women?  That's the real question.

You see, where there are more guns, more women are killed in domestic violence incidents, and not by a little.  The numbers are shocking when we compare high-gun states with low-gun states. 

It's just like the difference between intentional homicide in the UK compared to the US.  Fewer guns, the murders are 4 times less.

What do you think?  Please leave a comment.

6 comments:

  1. Will they also agree that guns are bad news for women? That's the real question.

    No. As was pointed out to you in the "guns and women post", The information is outdated and wrong, but instead of defending the information, you simply dismiss the truth as a wiggle dance.

    You see, where there are more guns, more women are killed in domestic violence incidents, and not by a little. The numbers are shocking when we compare high-gun states with low-gun states.

    Well then, compare them for us. Or do you just rely on the flawed research of others.

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    1. No, that was not pointed out to me. The information about high gun states and low gun states makes perfect sense. You just don't like the implication.

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    2. Then you didn't read it, but I'll be happy to point it out to you here.

      The chart that you quoted, uses information from 2003 instead of 2008 (which was the latest information at the time). I'd say that's OUTDATED, by five years then, and seven years now.

      The chart shows there being a total of 3,235 firearm suicides in just the selected states, when, in 2003, there were only 2,080 firearm related suicides nation wide. That makes your source WRONG.

      Furthermore, your source states that, in 2003, there were 343 unintentional firearm related deaths of females in the selected states, when in fact there were only 74 unintentional firearm related deaths.

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  2. Does domestic violence have to occur in the home? Yes, by definition. Domestic, from the Latin word, domus: in the home or household. By extention, in the home country, when discussing trade or politics, etc.

    Mikeb, when you insist on misusing words, why do you expect to be believed or even understood?

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    1. Petty and argumentative, that's you. Your point the other day was that it's not domestic violence since it took place outside of the home. Now you back peddling.

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    2. How am I backpeddling? Domestic violence occurs between persons who share a dwelling. I said that in the earlier article, and I repeated that here. You're trying to broaden the term for emotional effect, but you have no justification for that.

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