Sounds a lot like the current law in Minnesota. You can carry in a bar, but there are penalties for carrying while intoxicated. Plus bars, like other private property can ban firearms on their property. The same with churches. In Minnesota carry is permitted, but can be banned by the property owners. It is interesting that the redneck sounding guy seems to echo your beliefs, considering you often belittle their intelligence.
My state has never had a ban on carrying in church, and that always struck me as an odd one. A church is private property, owned and attended by its members and guests. As any other private entity, it could ban weapons on its premises, but on what grounds is the state telling members of a private organization what they can and can't bring onto their organization's property?
Nice huh? I guess you could always say the bad guys will just carry their guns into the bars anyway. Why do you say that one sensible man was a redneck just because he's from Georgia?
So we have one guy with a pretty hard sell way of looking for a partner in an armed robbery plan, and a guy who gets mad and calls a relative to bring him a gun. In fact, looking at online court records shows the murder suspect to have a felony conviction already, making him a prohibited person. So how exactly do these cases have any bearing on the behavior, or the implied misbehavior of permit holders. The current rules about permit holders in bars have been in force in Minnesota for over ten years, and the state has documentation that permit holders are much more law abiding than the general populace. My comment about the man being interviewed sort of stuck out because Mike likes to suggest that citizens who live in southern states are of inferior intelligence.
"My comment about the man being interviewed sort of stuck out because Mike likes to suggest that citizens who live in southern states are of inferior intelligence. "
"Like most of the things I like to suggest, that one is true."
Mikeb, have you looked into some of the reason why Governor Deal is, to quote you, "Expexcted to Sign"?
Not only does Deal have a good, solidly pro-gun (pro-American, in other words, which means pro-freedom, in other words, which means pro-human) record, but his likely opponent in the next gubernatorial election won't be able to use such a signing against him, because he voted for the bill:
There is no sign of political backlash for any member who voted for it, however, nor the sitting governor. The governor's likely opponent in November, State Sen. Jason Carter — former President Jimmy Carter's grandson — also voted for the legislation.
Pretty cool, eh? Jimmy Carter's grandson voting for a so-called "guns everywhere" bill.
Oh No! So extreme! Georgia's laws will become like those in many neighboring states!
ReplyDeleteGood for Georgia. The rest of the nation needs to catch up.
ReplyDeleteSounds a lot like the current law in Minnesota. You can carry in a bar, but there are penalties for carrying while intoxicated. Plus bars, like other private property can ban firearms on their property.
ReplyDeleteThe same with churches. In Minnesota carry is permitted, but can be banned by the property owners. It is interesting that the redneck sounding guy seems to echo your beliefs, considering you often belittle their intelligence.
My state has never had a ban on carrying in church, and that always struck me as an odd one. A church is private property, owned and attended by its members and guests. As any other private entity, it could ban weapons on its premises, but on what grounds is the state telling members of a private organization what they can and can't bring onto their organization's property?
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Here's your guns in bars in Minnesota.
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_25173773/minneapolis-man-admits-killing-malinas-bar-owner-st
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/03/10/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-tom-reids-bar-shooting/
Nice huh? I guess you could always say the bad guys will just carry their guns into the bars anyway. Why do you say that one sensible man was a redneck just because he's from Georgia?
"Here's your guns in bars in Minnesota."
DeleteSo we have one guy with a pretty hard sell way of looking for a partner in an armed robbery plan, and a guy who gets mad and calls a relative to bring him a gun. In fact, looking at online court records shows the murder suspect to have a felony conviction already, making him a prohibited person.
So how exactly do these cases have any bearing on the behavior, or the implied misbehavior of permit holders. The current rules about permit holders in bars have been in force in Minnesota for over ten years, and the state has documentation that permit holders are much more law abiding than the general populace.
My comment about the man being interviewed sort of stuck out because Mike likes to suggest that citizens who live in southern states are of inferior intelligence.
Like most of the things I like to suggest, that one is true.
Delete"My comment about the man being interviewed sort of stuck out because Mike likes to suggest that citizens who live in southern states are of inferior intelligence. "
Delete"Like most of the things I like to suggest, that one is true."
And he was agreeing with you. My point exactly.
Don't take it too hard, Mikeb--at least you still have Starbucks and Facebook ;-).
ReplyDeleteMikeb, have you looked into some of the reason why Governor Deal is, to quote you, "Expexcted to Sign"?
ReplyDeleteNot only does Deal have a good, solidly pro-gun (pro-American, in other words, which means pro-freedom, in other words, which means pro-human) record, but his likely opponent in the next gubernatorial election won't be able to use such a signing against him, because he voted for the bill:
There is no sign of political backlash for any member who voted for it, however, nor the sitting governor. The governor's likely opponent in November, State Sen. Jason Carter — former President Jimmy Carter's grandson — also voted for the legislation.
Pretty cool, eh? Jimmy Carter's grandson voting for a so-called "guns everywhere" bill.