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Please tell me why either one of these evil bastards deserves even a scintilla of respect.orlin sellers
Obama has 2 years yet to go, but so far he has pulled us out of the shit hole Bush left us.
Anon Obama pulled us out of nothing The American people and the businesses they own have made things better however Obama does deserve credit for signing into perpetuity the patriot act that the previous criminal originally signed.Scum is scum you have to recognize it as such or you will become it.. All criminal politicians should be tried and convicted MBIAC......
Right. Why is it any other president would get credit for bringing us out of a financial depression, but not the black president.
Anon no president should get credit for the economy good or bad...but you so badly want to make this about race so the president is bi racial not black.MBIAC.....
"Anon no president should get credit for the economy good or bad..." I would disagree Anon. He could rightfully be absolved of taking either blame or credit for the economy if he had no control over it. Though that isn't the case. There are some very clear things he can take credit for though, like continuing to authorize drone strikes, and signing to reauthorizations of the Patriot Act.
"Even Democrats in the state supported the new name.“I supported Obama because I thought he would end the wars in the Middle East;” says Allison Mitchell, a progressive Democrat from Grand Forks. “But he decided to fight new wars abroad instead of fighting for single-payer health care and jobs here at home.“I guess people expected me to oppose this landfill thing because I’m a Democrat. But honestly I don’t really care anymore. Maybe this small act of protest will wake him up.”"The president is hardly popular in North Dakota. The most recent poll in December 2013 found that Obama has a 35% approval rating in the state, although that figure may have fallen further in the year since. Yet even considering the political climate, seasoned observers are surprised that two Democratic lawmakers voted for the bill’s passage." http://dailycurrant.com/2014/11/17/north-dakota-names-landfill-after-obama/Pretty bad when even your guys wont vote for you.
Many Obama supporters have become disillusioned. But, the Republicans are the true evil bastards and I pray they don't come back into the White House.
So disillusioned that they voted for him again in 2012. That's not holding to principles.
Look at the alternative in 2012. In fact, that may very well make the difference again in 2016.
There were more than two candidates on the ballot. Or they could have stayed home. What you're basically saying is that Democrat politicians can lie and betray their constituents as much as they want, because their voters will never sway. Sounds like an abusive relationship.
When Bush lied, millions died. Obama's lies can't touch that.
Maybe the Obama-hate deniers can tell us again how Bush received the same level of disrespect. What--like having a newly discovered species of slime mold beetle named after him?Hating presidents is a long and healthy tradition in the U.S. Obama may not be subject to half as much hatred as he deserves, but at least some of us do our part to counter the abject sycophants.
And to this Mike you say?....please Mike enlighten us to how this is not the same type of disrespect as you most certainly will.MBIAC.....
That is the same kind of thing. Leave it to Kurt to find a rare example to disprove what I said. The fact is that Obama has been unfairly attacked by racist conservative idiots from day one, spearheaded by the Fox News actors who literally sneer or snicker when talking about him. You guys can try and claim it's the same, but to that I say you're lying through your teeth. No president has ever received the level of disrespect that Obama has, not Nixon and not Bush.
That is the same kind of thing. Leave it to Kurt to find a rare example to disprove what I said.The important thing is that you realize that your assertion has been disproved. Good for you, Mikeb.The fact is that Obama has been unfairly attacked by racist . . . That's a good one, "racist." I do like a good joke.
Leave it to Kurt to find a rare example to disprove what I said.About that "rare example"--are you saying that it's common for landfills to be named after Obama? This is the first one I'd heard of.
Another extremely dumb comment, Kurt.
Not that I'm outraged by this, but:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/game-of-thrones--george-w-bush_n_1594757.html
Yep, that's another one. I knew Kurt couldn't outdo you, TS.
I knew Kurt couldn't outdo you, TS.True, but I don't think TS and I are in any kind of competition with one another.
Bush was paraded around in effigy, dangling by his neck, and burned. I think that qualifies as equivalent--especially considering you'd be accused of being KKK if you did that with an effigy of dear leader.
In my above comment I mentioned that Obama has been UNFAIRLY disrespected. As one of his former supporters who's become disillusioned, I believe that's true. Bush, Cheney on the other hand are true war criminals for that Iraq invasion and the carefully orchestrated lying that duped the people into supporting it, not to mention the thousands who enlisted based on false jingoistic bullshit who then lost their lives.
As one of his former supporters who's become disillusioned, I believe that's true.In other words, when you criticize Obama, it's legitimate "disillusionment." When Republicans, "conservatives," and libertarians do so, it's "racism."
Yeah, pretty much that's it.
Yeah, pretty much that's it.Any time you wonder why someone is calling you a hypocrite, come revisit this conversation, to refresh your memory.
Mike, When you admit to a double standard like that, do you really not realize that it shows you to be a comically deranged buffoon?Republicans just voted in a new crop of representatives, and even MSNBC was commenting on how the diversity of the newly elected GOP members kinda made the Democrats look like a bunch of stodgy old white people.And yet here is Mike Quixote, still charging that the Republicans only support Obama because they're racists. I guess they must support conservatives of other races because they're racists too...do explain to us how that works in your twisted, hateful mind.
Bush and his cronies have been indicted as war criminals in many countries, the same cannot be said about Obama, but leave it to extremists to compare apples to oranges.
Out of curiosity, where were they indicted? And what are the standards of justice in those countries?
There's no hypocrisy and there's no double standard. When I criticize the president it's honest criticism coming from a former supporter. When Fox News and there many followers criticize the president it's out of racist bigotry. These are just facts.
"Out of curiosity?"Thanks for showing all your stupidity. Educate yourself.
Unfortunately, Mikeb's post is as real as stories from The Onion. There is no such landfill.However, if you wanna talk about racism, we have an administration that is built around Black Supremist flim-flam artists. orlin sellers
Wow--I hadn't even noticed that. This whole story is based on a story from the satire "news" site Daily Currant.Mikeb's pious bleating, "Maybe the Obama-hate deniers can tell us again how Bush received the same level of disrespect," gets funnier all the damned time.
Hey, Mikeb, since you and you're co-blogger like quoting satire to bolster your "points," this one is right up your alley.
It doesn't matter if it's a real place or not. The Obama hate is still there.
It doesn't matter if it's a real place or not.Oh, for shit's sake, Mikeb. Are you really going to claim that the fact that your "evidence" of "Obama hate" is fictional satire, and never happened, "doesn't matter"? And what now, by the way, makes this "North Dakota style"?Let us not forget that the article about a slime mold beetle being named after George W. Bush is not satire, but because it's, according to you, a "rare example" of "Bush hate," it (and the entirely separate example pointed out by TS) is apparently trumped by your single, fictional account of this notional "Obama hate."
Mike your willingness to call one administration out for their crimes "Bush, Cheney on the other hand are true war criminals " and not the current one is know ashy·poc·ri·syhəˈpäkrəsē/nounnoun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. synonyms: dissimulation, false virtue, cant, posturing, affectation, speciousness, empty talk, insincerity, falseness, deceit, dishonesty, mendacity, pretense, duplicity; More sanctimoniousness, sanctimony, pietism, piousness; informalphoniness, fraud "must politics be the perennial benchmark of hypocrisy?" antonyms: sincerityMBIAC.......
It's my opinion that the crimes of Bush and Cheney and Co. were far worse than anything Obama has done. Call it what you want, but I think you really know I'm right .
Obama has not been declared a war criminal by any country. If you don't see the difference you are a partisan, criminal backing, hack.
Anon the only country I give a shit about is the one in which I live..Obama has comitted crimes against the constitution and the people of this country I would tell you what they are but Mike freaks out when I talk about them. Calling me a criminal backing hack is funny..If you have read any of my comments you would know I advocate for all criminal politicians to be held accountable. I defend no political party as many do and by your defense of the president I'll assume you do also.MBIAC.....
Do tell us what Obama has done that is worse than lying to the country in order to invade Iraq resulting in countless expense and untold loss of life.
Of course your allegations against Obama, are just that. Not backed by evidence, or judicial decisions, as Bush's war criminal proceedings were. Just your opinion, which sounds partisan, if not racist.
Wow Anon you really do follow the leftist party line dont ya..call every white person a racist until someone believes the lie...funny shitMBIAC.....
Which deceitful warmonger was worse? This is like arguing who was more evil, Sauron or Darth Sidious. I'll tell you one difference, at least we knew who Bush was. He may have deceived the nation on facts, but Obama ran on a campaign of peace and ended the wars. Instead he kept one going, ramped up the other, and started two more. And then we saw all those liberals who were suckered in 2008 don their storm trooper masks and stand right behind the Emperor in 2012.
As usual, you're description of things is twisted beyond belief.
You don't believe what I said? Is it that you don't think Obama ran on a platform of peace, or that you didn't know Bush was a warmonger?
"who was more evil, Sauron or Darth Sidious" is twisting beyond belief. I do admit that Obama was a surprising disappointment. But Bush and Cheney gave no prior hint at the immensity of their immorality . Lying to the people to invade a country which ended up causing more than a million deaths was more than a surprising disappointment, don't you think?
But lying about ending that war and they starting and ramping up other wars isn't? That's merely "disappointing". So disappointing that we should keep voting for him.
I do admit that Obama was a surprising disappointment.Surprising to some, I guess. Perhaps it's only the "racists" who foresaw the Obama regime being this dismal.
"But lying about ending that war and they starting and ramping up other wars isn't? That's merely "disappointing". So disappointing that we should keep voting for him."Since that's totally untrue it's possible you are a racist hater.
There is no level of disrespect towards GWB that is inappropriate. I recall how famously, Rolling Stone, once came to the defense of the legitimately elected George Bush when penny ante liberals came to disrespect his office and achievements. Perhaps that was the moment when the "respect for the office," meme began. It's bullshit, anyway. We Americans have always held a healthy hatred for our political enemies. That hatred found its ultimate fruition in the assassination of JFK. Apparently a lot of conservatives still hate JFK fifty-one years after he was shot and killed.Bush is in a class by himself. His only defense is that he was just a little boy held sway by the corporeal form of Satan between the years of 2001 and 2009, aka Richard Cheney. He started a fucking war where there was no war!!!!! A sitting president of the U.S.A. started a war. WTF?First there is no war, then there is a war, then perpetual war.Mike, I'm not disillusioned. There are still many of us who support the president despite our anti-war hippie roots. Imagine if McCain had been elected?All you lovely conservatives who have clogged up the comments with your lingering hatred of Kennedy and Obama. It just means you are the opponents. The other side. Personally, I have no great love for Kennedy and Obama haters. But I respect your right to express your opinions. And I respect you as fellow Americans. Part of the fabric.Mike's re-post about Kennedy worship? Big deal. The guy was legitimately deified. Remember, you have to get killed for that to happen.
" Imagine if McCain had been elected?"I shudder to imagine that. Just like I shudder to imagine the Republicans taking over the White House in 2 years.
If McCain was elected?We'd have had drone strikes, a presidency claiming the right to indefinitely detain even American Citizens from the homeland, military intervention in Libya and Syria, escalating tensions with Russia, etc.Not seeing much difference.Didn't vote for McCain or support him in any way, in spite of being a Conservative, because I couldn't support his warmongering or his willingness to trade rights for potential security. Unfortunately, the other guy I didn't vote for hasn't turned out to be any better on those issues.
I gotta laugh at Mikeb's man Obama. He fires warmonger Hagel because he's not warmongery enough.orlin sellers
Hagel a war monger? Funny. By that definition Rumsfeld must have been a Mussolini.
Ridiculous- its bad enough we got Black people all over the place pullin the race card Now we got white folks doin it too? You ought to be ashamed of yourself? And I'm Black BTW...
What's your opinion, Black Man? Racism doesn't exist and plays no part in any of this Obama hate?
You have just shown your true racist colors yourself Mike. Black Man has a name, its C. A. Ross. You have NO respect do you, NONE! I will tell you that there IS racism and partly because of people like you its still happening. Does it play a part of Obama hate? NO! Its because of what Obama has done, is doing and still wants to do. And by the way, I'm also a "Black Man".
"Does it play a part of Obama hate? NO! Its because of what Obama has done, is doing and still wants to do. "Are you really saying there's no element of racism in the Obama haters?
Lack reading comprehension?