Regarding Death Threats To American Citizens Excercising Free Speech

Sean Shealy of BundyFest:



Let's try to keep the discussion on BundyFest and ACTUAL threats of violence--not the ones you have in your twisted minds.

That said, I should probably give an explanation to the morons who cannot grasp the difference between seeing the irony of Meleanie Hain being killed by something that this (mistakenly) believed would protect her.  Or is that despite the presence of something which she believed would protect her despite the evidence to the contrary?

The research is out there that shows carrying a gun is more likely to increase the risk of harm to the carrier (which comes from Pennsylvania) and that the presence of a firearm is more likely to lead to harm to the member of the household or close friend than a criminal.

or as the Economist put it Data suggest that guns do in fact kill people.

On the other hand, If she wanted (and the rest of you want) to be fact adverse and you heads start hurting the more evidence is piled against your position--it ain't my problem.  It also ain't my problem that she ended up proving "them anti-gun" types correct.

But, you lot tend to be notoriously fact adverse and believe that ignorance is bliss.

On the other hand, Meleanie showed that it can be deadly.

see also:

• Gun Ownership and Firearm-related Deaths
• Protection or peril? An analysis of firearm-related deaths in the home
• Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study
• Firearm availability and suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm deaths among women 
• Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home 
• Increased risk of intimate partner homicide among California women who purchase handguns 
• Without Guns, Do People Kill People?
• Carry a gun=you get shot more often
• People Are More Likely To Kill When They Have A Gun - The National Memo 
• Firearm Availability and Homicide: A Review of the Literature
• Firearm Legislation and Firearm-Related Fatalities in the United States

Threat v. Wish

You would think that someone who claims to teach English would know the different.  On the other hand, the rest of you are idiots.

threat  THret/ noun noun: threat; plural noun: threats

1. 1.

   a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

   "members of her family have received death threats"

   synonyms:

   threatening remark, warning, ultimatum More "Maggie ignored his threats"

   • Law

     a menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person's freedom of action.

2. 2.

   a person or thing likely to cause damage or danger.

   "hurricane damage poses a major threat to many coastal communities"

Another legal definition is:

ThreatsSpoken or written words tending to intimidate or menace others.

In other words, there needs to be an actual menace and/or ability to carry out the threat.  \but, that's one of the reasons for "get away with murder laws".  Normally, if you make a mistake in law, you can still be found guilty, but the "get away with murder laws" allow for your subjective judgement to carry the day.

Even if it is plainly wrong.

For something to be a threat there needs to be actual menace.  That is a mere threat that does not cause any harm is generally not actionable. When combined with apparently imminent bodily harm, however, a threat is an assault for which the offender might be subject to civil or criminal liability. In most jurisdictions, a plaintiff can recover damages for the intentional infliction of severe mental or emotional suffering caused by threats or unlawful communications.

So, I am going to (menacing statement here) is a threat.

On the other hand, saying something like "I wish", "I would have liked" implies something other than a threat. It is more like a desire or wish.

Does that make sense to you, or do I need to dumb it down further?

I should add that wishing don't necessarily make it so, or I would make the world a much better place.