Friday, July 10, 2009

Hey Joe

This song tells a story which perfectly illustrates what we've been talking about lately - guns are bad news for women. Wikipedia has some interesting details (about the history of the song, not the abuse of women). What I want to know is, if Joe really "shot his woman down" and fled to Mexico, and he brought his gun with him, that would make him part of the problem, wouldn't it?

19 comments:

  1. Here is yet another example to prove your claim correct that guns are bad news for women.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnxC9mt-OTc

    FYI, this video is linked by the Brady Campaign. You remember, one of your trusted sources for info?

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  2. Aahh,too bad so sad.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZMyPs_-U4M&feature=related

    Even the most ardent liberals are saying we must abide by th SCOTUS Ruling.

    Deal with it.

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  3. Does this mean that you are now adding illegal drug abusing retards to your list of "reliable sources" for you quest of banning guns?

    Just wondering.

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  4. I'm going to assume you're making a joke here... one of those not-really-funny Andy Kaufmann things that someone does for his own amusement.

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  5. Eric, Aside from the reference to gun flow into Mexico, I was pretty serious actually.

    kaveman, Thanks for those clips. The first one which you said the Bradys linked to is just too ridiculous for words. "The NRA wants all students to have guns." It's embarrassingly stupid.

    The other comments by Cenk I really liked. Although, I didn't understand his characterization of Justice Scalia. Didn't the Justice also say that reasonable restrictions will continue or something like that?

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  6. We always can find some kind of irrelevant idiocy to "change the subject". It's too easy to find quips and quotes from pro gun advocates to poke fun at and satirize.

    Always love watching Hendrix do his thing.
    I think his rendition of "Like A Rolling Stone" from the same concert at Monterey was so brilliant.
    Very few artists have been able to out do Dylan at his own game.
    Like a Rolling Stone is a difficult piece to begin with, full of ironic wordplay, peaks and valleys of emotion and sarcasm.
    To perform it in the context of a 3 piece power rock trio and retain the elegiac feel and provide real pyrotechniques at the same time was sheer genius.
    Of course, Hendrix blew everyone away when he covered All Along The Watchtower a year later and it became the framework for Dylan's own interpretation of the piece.

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  7. guns are bad news for women
    I'm sure Texas CHL holder (and woman, to boot!) Miranda Lambert would beg to differ.

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  8. Pistolero, How cool (sarcasm). Gunpowder and lead and cigarettes and the obligatory tramp stamp tattoo.

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  9. Gunpowder and lead and cigarettes and the obligatory tramp stamp tattoo.
    If it's between that and the kind of woman you'd prefer Miss Lambert to be, I'd take the former any day. I find it illuminating that you'd seemingly dismiss the entire concept just because of the tattoo, though.

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  10. Pistolero, I didn't "dismiss the entire concept just because of the tattoo." It was the cigarettes.

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  11. I fail to see how either was relevant to the concept of a woman taking care of her situation herself instead of waiting for the police to do it for her.

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  12. Sorry, Pistolero, it's my sometimes elusive sense of humor. Cigarettes and tattoos have nothing at all to do with anything.

    The point is that although some women do well with a gun, most don't. The best way to protect women from abusing men with guns is not to arm the women but to disarm the men (oops, I said the magic words, but please don't take them out of context). What I mean is by making guns less available, some of those dangerous abusing men who hurt women with guns won't have one handy. Lives would be saved by lessening the availability of guns. Lives are lost by increasing it.

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  13. The best way to protect women from abusing men with guns is not to arm the women but to disarm the men...by making guns less available, some of those dangerous abusing men who hurt women with guns won't have one handy.
    Indeed. So instead of getting shot, they'll just get beaten, or maybe knifed. Apparently to your side that's a better kind of dead. Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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  14. T"he point is that although some women do well with a gun, most don't."

    Bullshit. Proof Mike?

    If anything women are often better shooters than men and very quick learners.

    I dare you to tell that to any of the numerous female gun bloggers I know.

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  15. "I dare you to tell that to any of the numerous female gun bloggers I know."

    And you know no matter how many you point to or statistics you provide, MikeB will claim they're they 'exception'.

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  16. Mike and Third, Are you trying to say that the female bloggers you mentioned and the female shooters you personally know are representative of the typical and normal American female.

    Give me a break, will ya?

    You guys think because you're arguing about your sacred rights you can say any ridiculous thing that comes to mind. Get honest, will ya. If you have a good an argument as you say, why do you resort to such silly points as the idea that women are good with guns?

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  17. "why do you resort to such silly points as the idea that women are good with guns?"

    You've said women are bad with guns. What evidence has lead you to make that statement? What makes women so inferior to men that they're incapable of safely handling a firearm?

    You sound like a sad little sexist bigot Mike.

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  18. Mikeb you definitely have some sexist tendencies. If you had have left it at "men in general like guns more" then I would agree with you. Its genetic (4 billion years have bred aggression into men). Instead you said, "The point is that although some women do well with a gun, most don't." Do most men not do well with a dishwasher?

    Once again, you make up something without any information to back it up. In this case all you have is your twisted sexist logic.

    I happen to prefer teaching women to shoot. There is no machoism and they don't think they have an innate ability to fire a gun. That is why they become good shooters. Read my post about the church women here, here, here,, and here.

    These were all "typical" women: moms, grandmas, teachers, nurses, homemakers, real estate developers, students, etc. One even admitted to being scared to death of gun her whole life. Every single one of them had great fun shooting and asked to go again. If women don't do well with guns, how on earth could 3 experienced shooters handle 11 women at 8 shooting stations simultaneously? (Do the math, that means there was more than one gun firing for each experienced shooter, and these weren't just .22s).

    Perhaps your problem is you don't do well with guns and feel like you need to project it on to others to try to justify your disarmament campaign.

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  19. I guess those pictures of my mom shooting a .38 revolver, 12 guage shotgun, and a true full-auto AK-47Assault rifle are proof that guns are bad for women.

    I guess it was a really bad idea for me to bring her shooting with my .22, 9mm, and .357SIG earlier this year, and the huge smile on her face was just an illusion.

    Mike - Your bigotry is showing and it's not pretty.

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