A big thanks to Cliff over at One Utah. This video follows nicely on the Alan Grayson situation just the other day. People who oppose efforts to improve the health care in the U.S. should be ashamed of themselves. "Heel-draggin' Neanderthals," indeed.
Oh, this is priceless! Thanks (I actually think this song will be stuck in my head all day).
ReplyDeletePeople who oppose efforts to improve the health care in the U.S. should be ashamed of themselves. "Heel-draggin' Neanderthals," indeed.
ReplyDeleteAnd people who oppose efforts to protect the right to keep and bear arms should be ashamed of themselves. "Liberty-hatin' collectivists," indeed.
Mike, can you please tell us what is so wrong with the health care in the US that causes the WHO to rate it so low?
ReplyDeleteAfter all, the wealthy and infulential from all over the world overwhelmingly choose to come to the US for their critical health problems.
Mike, can you please tell us what is so wrong with the health care in the US that causes the WHO to rate it so low?
ReplyDeleteI think The Who's complaint stems from a bad experience Pete Townshend had in a U.S. hospital. Oh . . . never mind--I was confused for a minute.
beowulf, good one.
ReplyDeleteTomB, silly one. Are you feigning ignorance again to make the discussion tedious? That's one of your tricks isn't it?
Here in Italy, everyone and anyone has health coverage. In the U.S. tens of millions do not. I would imagine the WHO is concerned with that and not with the fact, as you very rightly pointed out, that rich people come to the States for top treatment.
TomB, silly one. Are you feigning ignorance again to make the discussion tedious? That's one of your tricks isn't it?
ReplyDeleteYes Mike, asking relatively simple questions is a "trick" of mine.
I would like you to tell me what it is that causes the WHO to rate our health care so bad.
And if it is so bad, why is it the choice of the privileged of the world?
Here in Italy, everyone and anyone has health coverage. In the U.S. tens of millions do not.
So are we talking coverage or access? Because anybody in this country, including the tens of millions (ring a bell?) of illegal immigrants, can get immediate access to the best health care in the world at any emergency room, with, on average, less of a wait than the insured do in Canada.
If our health care is so poor, why do millions flock here for care when their own nations' can't cure them? Why do we lead the world in medical advances?
ReplyDeleteOur military is terrible they say but yet ours is always on the top of the list when they want peacekeepers. Our economy and monetary system are bad but yet they all buy our dollar to hedge their own currencies. They complain about the U.S. yet any time Britain, France or some other European sissy country gets in trouble they beg for our help.
Why are we ranked 37th? Jealousy. Pure green envy that is why. They all want to be us.
ReplyDeleteWhy are we ranked 37th? Jealousy. Pure green envy that is why. They all want to be us.
I'd say more like politics. What I was trying to get our host to do was to look at the actual parameters the WHO used and realize that they weren't so much looking at actual health care, but access to health care, which, aside from political considerations, is completely irrelevant.
TomB, The privileged coming to the U.S. for care has nothing to do with anything.
ReplyDeleteThe 10s of millions who can go to the emergency room also has nothing to do with it. Health coverage means having a doctor you can go to, prescriptions you can get cheaply, it means blood tests and x-rays and other more expensive procedures are available to you.
In Italy everyone has all that. In America, the land of the free, they don't. That's what the WHO is talking about, I would imagine.
What are you talking about? Is it all lies the liberal's made up led my Michael Moore?
TomB, The privileged coming to the U.S. for care has nothing to do with anything.
ReplyDeleteHe says with a wave of his hand...
So you have 36 countries with better health care ahead of the US and you choose them?
If there were 37 restaurants in a town and hundreds of rich people were coming in from all over the world to eat at the one ranked 37, wouldn't it make you wonder about how accurate the rankings were?
The 10s of millions who can go to the emergency room also has nothing to do with it.
He says with another wave of his hand and absolutely no proof.
Health coverage means having a doctor you can go to,
Don't know what it's like in Italy, but there are doctors in hospitals here in the US.
prescriptions you can get cheaply,
I can get any prescription for a patient that can't afford it with a simple phone call.
it means blood tests and x-rays and other more expensive procedures are available to you.
There is no person that presents at a hospital that does NOT have access to every test and procedure that hospital can give.
Face it. That WHO report is a political report, not a scientific report. You would know that if you read it.