The Local Eyewitness News reports on yet another murder - suicide. I know you'll find it hard to believe, but it was the ex-boyfriend who killed the woman and then shot himself.
Do you think it's possible the guy was a lawful gun owner, or that he may have had a concealed carry permit, but no one bothered to make those facts part of the story? Isn't it possible that when people are killed in such a shocking manner, some details about the victims are lost?
I say all that's more than possible. I say that's exactly what happens in many cases and that's why John Lott's claims are misleading at best.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
So many details were lost on this poor girl, her dental records had to be used and the authorities can't say how she died.
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But we can forget about her. Since there probably was no gun involved and the person of interest has no weapons record, it doesn't count. We're only interested in gun murders here.
Hypertexted.
ReplyDelete"Do you think it's possible the guy was a lawful gun owner, or that he may have had a concealed carry permit, but no one bothered to make those facts part of the story?"
ReplyDeleteDidn't they also fail to note if there was a restraining order against the shooter and that he was a prohibited person?
Seems to me that in these reported incidents there was a restraining order about 10,000 to 1 over a concealed carry license holder involved.
It's also possible I shit gold bricks.
ReplyDeleteAh MikeB, making crap up as usual.
Didn't they also fail to note if there was a restraining order against the shooter and that he was a prohibited person?
ReplyDeleteAs I've sagely noted many times, lists of CCW holders aren't often cross-referenced against those who may have committed crimes.
For example, the head of the GA Bureau of Investigation which oversees that state's CCW permit process says he has no idea if a CCW holder has gone on to commit felonies or some other crime which would make him a prohibited person.
"As I've sagely noted ..."
ReplyDeleteYou keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
"...the head of the GA Bureau of Investigation which oversees that state's CCW permit process says he has no idea if a CCW holder has gone on to commit felonies or some other crime which would make him a prohibited person."
Please, Jade, spokesman are not generally the head of anything.
The spokesman made that comment, not the head of the GBI, and he was commenting on the fact that the system in GA doesn't have a central database for officers to check easily on whether a permit exists.
“All the records are kept within each of the 159 probate courts,” he says. “There is no way to check whether the permit is valid. Police would have to call the court in the county where the permit was issued to find out if it was valid, and that would only be possible during business hours.”
As though that was some impossible task, to have to make a phone call during business hours. Like people don't have to do that every day.
The opinion piece then goes on to point out a whole TWO people who had permits and were arrested, one of whom was convicted.
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008/08/24/gunsed_0824.html
I will grant you that I think that a permit holder database ought to be established by the state of GA, and they ought to make it accessible by the police officers to determine if a particular permit holder's permit is still valid.
I draw the line at allowing the media access to such, however.
Thanks for the link. I just turned it into a new post. That Georgia is something else, it makes NC look positively civilized.
ReplyDeleteAnd you missed the point, much as Jadegold usually misses the point.
ReplyDeleteIn the "article" (opinion piece, since that is what it was) they could lament this and worry over that when it came to concealed carry permits, yet produce only TWO examples of people who were even arrested, only one of whom was convicted.
Not a compelling argument, MikeB.