Thursday, June 23, 2011

So WHERE DID those illegal guns come from?

I think we can safely assume they did NOT originate with the manufacturer selling them to the bad guys.  So HOW did all these illegal guns we keep hearing about get into the hands of these bad people in the first place?

And that raises the logical question, if legal guns were just a little more difficult to come by, so that we could be more confident that the only people who had them were LEGAL people, who further, would because of that difficulty be a lot more careful with them, would there be so many guns circulating among people who DID NOT have them legally?

From the STrib, June 23, 2011:
87 arrested in raid on after-hours club in south Minneapolis

More than 80 people were arrested in an early morning raid Thursday that turned up guns and drugs in an after hours club in south Minneapolis.

The arrests included a dozen people who were jailed on weapons and narcotics charges and for outstanding warrants, said Sgt. William Palmer. Also, 75 people were cited for participating in a disorderly house, a misdemeanor, and were released.

A police SWAT team raided the building on the 3000 block of 27th Ave. South at 3:05 a.m.

"We'd been looking at the address for a couple of months as a possible tippling house, an after hours club," Palmer said. "Then reports that some assaults had taken place in or around that building led us to put a higher priority on investigating it."

The SWAT team was used to enter the building because of the expectation that people in the club had guns, Palmer said.

Police found a bar and sound system set up in the basement.

They seized crack cocaine, heroin, marijuana and pills, as well as several guns (emphasis mine - DG), Palmer said.

-- STAFF REPORT

9 comments:

  1. ""So WHERE DID those illegal guns come from?"

    NEWSFLASH: Criminals like to steal shit. Some of them are real good at it.

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  2. Considering the ATF traffics guns outside the US, it's no stretch of the imagination to believe they traffic them inside the US as well.

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  3. They seized crack cocaine, heroin, marijuana and pills, (emphasis mine) as well as several guns, Palmer said.

    And that raises the logical question, if crack cocaine, heroin, marijuana and pills were just a little more difficult to come by, would there be so much crack cocaine, heroin, marijuana and pills circulating among people who DID NOT have them legally?

    Oh, wait a minute, we do that already.

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  4. Gun owners who leave a gun in the bedroom nightstand drawer and lose it to a burglar love to cry about being the victim of a crime. In most states they are just stupid for not securing their weapons better. In the future, when the country comes to its senses, they'll be guilty of a crime.

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  5. " In the future, when the country comes to its senses, they'll be guilty of a crime."

    In that same future women who get raped will also be guilty of a crime, just like in Saudi Arabia.

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  6. Mike. This place was very well known. It's a half block from a friends house and he had been calling the police for months. It started to operate at midnight playing rap, hip hop, world music etc loud enough to be heard several blocks away sitting on a porch.

    Most of the people involved were arrested on warrants charges. ( surprise). The rest of the people arrested were too stooooopid to drop their crap on the floor in the melée that happened.

    Everynight of the week this crap goes on and the local politicians are too PC to go to heart of the matter.

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  7. " In the future, when the country comes to its senses, they'll be guilty of a crime."

    In that same future women who get raped will also be guilty of a crime, just like in Saudi Arabia.
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    No AzRed, the same way that they would be guilty of a crime if they were negligent in some other serious way and harm to others happened.

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  8. Peter, Thanks for that thoughtful comment. I agree most of the gun violence takes place in "those places." My contention is that all those guns in criminal hands started out with guys like you and your local FFL guy. I blame you for not hanging on to your property better.

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