Go. Read.
To the left is an artist's rendition of two of the conspirators plotting to exterminate the populations of Washington, DC, Atlanta, New Orleans, and maybe Jacksonville. To the far left, is (Emory) Dan Roberts, age 67--codename: Cobra. Seated beside him is the ringleader--Frederick Thomas, age 73. They are holding their hands cupped to their ears because this elite team of gunloons are, well, a bit hard of hearing.
These elite Commando/Gunloons are members of the super, super, secret, combat team, no-girls-allowed, special, short-bus brigade of the "The Covert Group"are Ray "Chewbacca" Adams, 65, and Samuel Crump, 68.This team of America's Finest Warriors are adherents of fellow Super-Aryan Mike Vanderboegh whose combat exploits and derring-do is legendary, particularly among the mobility scooter set collecting disability checks crowd.
These are the cream-of-the-crop, elite "three-percenters." These are the final bulwark between us and Kenyan socialism-Sharia Law-Designated Hitter-Blacks in Our Restrooms.
Let's meet them:
Frederick Thomas: Meeting with an undercover FBI agent, Thomas allegedly explained that his “covert group” wasplanning to carry out the actions of the main characters from the book “Absolved,” written by right-wing blogger and former militia man Mike Vanderboegh. He allegedly said he considered himself expendable because of his age.
(Emory) Dan Roberts: As TPM previously reported, Roberts sued a number of local officials and a newspaper in federal court in relation to a 2004 “Southern Heritage” event he organized at a middle school that featured the Confederate flag. According to the lawsuit, he “co-sponsored and assisted in flag rallies organized by the Southern Rights Association [hereafter SRA]. He is widely known in the area as a flag supporter.”
Ray Adams: A retired Department of Agriculture employee, Adams lives in “a single story shelter constructed of wood plants and a metal roof.” The rear of the shelter, according to an FBI affidavit, “is a travel trailer used for its kitchen facilities and storage.” It’s located on 17.21 acres.
Samuel J. Crump: Crump, pictured above in a photo posted on MySpace and Facebook, lived in a mobile that sat on .27 acres. The Centers for Disease Control told the FBI he worked as a contractor for the agency doing “maintenance type services.”
On his Facebook page, Crump is a member of a number of Tea Party affiliated groups as well as one called “DEAR LORD, THIS YEAR YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTOR, PATRICK SWAYZIE. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE ACTRESS, FARAH FAWCETT. YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE SINGER, MICHAEL JACKSON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT IS BARACK OBAMA. AMEN.”Ladies and Gents, I give you the NRA's finest. Their elite.
Wow. Poster boys for gunloon insurrectionism!
ReplyDeleteYup, those guys are genuine idiots. I do have a few questions, though.
ReplyDelete1. Given the FBI's habit of encouraging terrorist plots so as to foil them later, I have to wonder how much this was assisted by the Bureau.
2. Nowhere have I seen any evidence that these four were members of the NRA. Are you merely slinging mud to see what sticks, or do you know something?
3. Even if they were members of the NRA, what can you show me that supports the implication that the NRA agrees with their plot? Let's say that they all also had subscriptions to the National Geographic. The yearly fee is about the same, and neither organization is picky about who can sign up.
Greg: There's an old adage that's apt: 'you can't cheat an honest man.'
ReplyDeleteSting operations are a vital part of law enforcement--particularly when dealing with terrorism. And, to be clear, law enforcement doesn't select folks at random and lure them into terrorist plots. These NRA types were already plotting something.
Now, I'm sure the NRA will publicly disown these loons and do everything in its power to distance themeselves from them. But the reality is--like McVeigh--when the NRA engages in such dire, apocalyptic, and inflammatory rhetoric, a few of the less-than-bright are going to take it as a clarion call.
I have to agree with Greg Camp on his first point. Not to say that the FBI instigated this, but to ask if they did.
ReplyDeleteAs far as whether they were members of the NRA or whether the NRA's inflammatory rhetoric incites some numbskulls, I'll go 50/50 until I find out whether they are members and 100% that the NRA does what it does for greedy and cynical reasons.
DC: Come now. One has to be pretty much disposed toward committing terrorism to seriously begin to plan and organize for terrorism.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe it's just a spur of the moment impulse.
Mike Vanderboegh should be charged as accessory.
ReplyDelete"Mike Vanderboegh should be charged as accessory."
ReplyDeleteReally? He should go to jail for writing a fictional book? Nevermind the fact that he's never met these guys much less had any part in their planning. In your perfect world authors would be prosecuted for writing about murderous plots. I find that to be the most dangerous thing in this entire post.
shouldn't be charged as an accessory. Just as William Pierce wasn't when NRA Tim McVeigh used Pierce's book as inspiration.
ReplyDeletebut that doesn't mean Human colostomy bag Mike Vandebroegh should escape scot-free. The fact is Faux News uses him as an authority on the ATF, that he's on Darell Issa's mailing list--is a travesty. Human colostomy bag Mike Vandebroegh should be marginalized and scorned as the creep he is.
I see no justification for charging Vanderboogieman as an accessory. For better or for worse, we have no criminal category for simply being an asshole.
ReplyDeleteShame on Faux News for elevating this guy to some sort of legitimacy, though. And shame on the right wing for embracing him to the extent that they have.
I agree that asking the degree to which the FBI may have encouraged this is a fair and legitimate question.
But the FBI did not appear to hold a gun to anyone's head to push them into trying to kill mass numbers of people. They appear - from the pdf of the court documents - to be more than willing all on their own, based on surveillance recordings.
I don't know if the FBI helped provide them any rope, but they appear to have gotten knotted all by themselves.
"Shame on Faux News for elevating this guy to some sort of legitimacy, though. And shame on the right wing for embracing him to the extent that they have."
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of Vanderboegh and some of his rhetoric in the past (especially the brick throwing). However, that does not change the fact that he was the first to bring the Fast and Furious scandal to light, months before anyone else even took a look at it. And now, unable to dispute the facts he's brought to light, he's being tenuously linked to this geriatric militia in an order to discredit those facts. That's what I find shameful.
Not my real name, cuz' even though I'm armed to the teeth I'm afeared of you spineless, weak-kneed liberal milksops:
ReplyDeleteMike Vanderblooie was a piece of shit before, during and after his "exposing" the "Fast and Furious" deal. Scum is ever scum.
"Mike Vanderblooie was a piece of shit before, during and after his "exposing" the "Fast and Furious" deal. Scum is ever scum."
ReplyDeleteAnd? Does that somehow discredit the facts surrounding Fast and Furious?
Did I imply that it did? You really don't get it, do you. I'm not wasting my time defending the ATF. But I do have to ask; do you just hate them for "Fast and Furious" stuff that happened AFTER 1/21/09?
ReplyDeleteAll right, all right, we can't charge him as an accessory. But, maybe more needs to be done to highlight his insane positions. The fact that he has a huge following of like-minded folks and that even Fox has lent him increased credibility should be combatted with more frequent attempts to spotlight his ridiculous positions.
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