Sara McMeen, 30 committed the most horrifying of crimes on Friday. She killed her three children, live-in boyfriend then turned the gun on herself. The devastation she left behind has affected the entire community of Emington, IL.
Why are guns not controlled so strictly that people like this cannot get them? Of course we couldn't prevent every single unhinged person from getting a gun, but is that a reason to not even try? Through proper screening and qualifying requirements, many unfit people would not have a gun handy when they snap. That's the solution.
I'll go further and say that anyone who opposes that solution must assume part of the responsibility for the daily and countless incidents that result. All that talk about "rights" is just talk. This is reality.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Mikeb302000;
ReplyDeleteI think you're looking at this the wrong way.
We know a couple of things.
1.) Teh gunz are inanimate objects, sacred inanimate objects to be sure, but after all, just inanimate objects.
c.) You can bet your sweet patootle that any home invaders, quickdraw shootists, scary blackoperps and the like will think twice before tryin' their criminal crap on the good well-armed and polite people of Emington,IL.
5.) This kind of thing could not be foreseen as it's never happened within 10 miles of Emington, IL*.
Title IV, sub-part M, para. 9d:)
It was not an AUTOMATIC weppin.
But I think the real takeaway here is that most reliable demographic information points to gunzloonz being somewhat conservative** and, especially where things like how to deal with lazy malingerers and welfare grifters are concerned.
One gun, maybe $25-500.
Five bullets, I dunno, $4?
Ridding society of five potential welfare cheats, medicaid sponges, food stamp cons and tax fraudsters, PRICLESS.
Hey, it's just social Darwinism with a bullet!
Now, I'm sure that some of our more sensitive gunzloonz will think I'm being callous and hateful. I would invite them to contact the Emington, IL PD or coroner to see if they can get a set of the 8 x 10 glossies of the mom, boyfriend dad and them three kids.
Remember guns don't kill people, lax gun laws kill people.
* It did happen a few years ago in Dwight, IL--but Dwight's almost TWELVE miles away!
** Or fucking Batshit KKKrazzee, ymmv.
Illinois already has strict gun control laws as well as all gun owners must be registered before they can buy them. Isn't that what you say will save us all?
ReplyDeleteThat would be great FWM, if we had registration and background checks on private transfers / sales. That would be great, if we had compliance with the NICS. That would be great if we had both enforcement of existing laws but also similar laws in neighboring states, and then maybe we really would have the protection from this kind of event we need.
ReplyDeleteBut we don't.
At least, not yet.
"Illinois already has strict gun control laws as well as all gun owners must be registered before they can buy them. Isn't that what you say will save us all?"
ReplyDeleteYou guyz really want to humor us? Let's make the whole U.S. have the same lawz as IL. If they're all that draconian then we'll see, in short order, a huge uptick in killings by criminals of defenseless citizens, because we all know that when gunz are outlawed only outlawz will haz teh gunz.
"You guyz really want to humor us? Let's make the whole U.S. have the same lawz as IL. If they're all that draconian then we'll see, in short order, a huge uptick in killings by criminals of defenseless citizens, because we all know that when gunz are outlawed only outlawz will haz teh gunz."
ReplyDeleteThe whole country turn into Chicago? No thanks.
Dog Gone,
ReplyDeleteIllinois already has a kind of registration: It registers owners. To buy a firearm in that state legally, one must have a Firearms Owner I.D. card.
As for getting such wacko laws in the surrounding states, it ain't gonna happen.
This would be easy to solve! When someone buys a firearm, they have to fill out a form with a bunch of questions asking whether they are breaking any laws or whether they intend to break any laws with the firearm. They could just add another question asking if they intend to slaughter their family with it, or make them promise not to.
ReplyDeleteGun buyers have to answer all the questions correctly under penalty of perjury, so you know they aren't lying.
This would solve the problem in a jiffy!
Clearly, this was the guns fault.
ReplyDeleteGreg Camp:
ReplyDeleteOnce again conflates statutes on the books with incontrovertible facts.
I would estimate, totally unscientifically that there are at least 10 or 12 illegally held firearms in IL*; illegally held firearms that are held by OLAGO's.
If a few of those OLAGO's were sentenced to, say, death for their actions...Nah, on second thought, they should just be thrown in jail, 4-evah!!
* My actual guess is in the range of a couple of orders of magnitude higher.
Democommie,
ReplyDeleteOr Illinois could throw out its stupid gun laws.
You, Greg, fail to show how fewer gun laws or repealing gun laws will prevent shit like this from happening.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing - NOTHING - which suggests more guns, more people carrying guns, less tracking gun transfers which would hold people accountable for who gets a gun from them - would improve on these events occurring.
You offer nothing other than a whiny "but I want my gun, it's possible that someone might attack me or someone some day somewhere, kinda maybe, just possibly so I gotta have it no matter how incredibly unlikely that is" coupled with clear indications from your own words and pictures that you don't know shit from shinola about gun safety or the applicable gun laws to shooting in self defense.
So when you can come up with some credible counter proposals that have any kind of objective measurement of success, let us know. Otherwise, you're arguing for what puts guns in the hands of crazies and criminals.
leBolide is a new funny guy for us. Welcome.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was the husband's gun which would prove it didn't save him. Or maybe she picked it up from her cousin in Indiana which would prove that strict laws in one state are useless if the neighboring state is lax.
There are other possibilities too. But, you know what the common denominator is, right? Gun availability is bad news for unfit people, you know the ones you want to have easy access.
Dog Gone,
ReplyDeleteAnd you have yet to establish that the guns these people use were bought illegally. What if this woman acquired it legally? What if she showed no signs of mental problems and had no criminal record? The news article didn't say. Are you claiming that no legal gun owner does anything wrong?
This isn't a problem of lax gun laws. It's a problem of being human. Some humans will do bad things. Unless you ban all guns from everyone, you can't stop things like this from happening.