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#gunsense Philly judge rules NRA has no 'legal standing' to sue city over gun ordinances http://t.co/Be6M1epTog via @pennlive— Joan Peterson (@commongunsense) 5 Settembre 2015
#gunsense Philly judge rules NRA has no 'legal standing' to sue city over gun ordinances http://t.co/Be6M1epTog via @pennlive
This is indeed a setback for the forces of righteousness and decency, but I do think there's a silver lining here. The way I understand it, no one will be recognized as having "standing" to challenge the laws, until someone is actually charged with violating them. When that happens, the NRA can just approach the accused, say, "Hey become the lead plaintiff in our lawsuit, and we'll handle all your legal expenses," and suddenly they have standing.Therefore, Philly can only continue to hide the illegitimacy of its illegal, preemption-violating laws behind rulings like this as long as those laws are never enforced. Renders them rather toothless, doesn't it?That, anyway, is my understanding.Meanwhile, I won't be surprised if the legislature makes another go at passing something like Act 192, this time doing it right, so it can survive all challenges, and therefore once again giving gun rights groups "standing," even without anyone having been charged under Philly's illegitimate "laws."
I'd rather SAF take the lead on these cases; all of the legal victories, half of the erroneous media baggage.
It is pretty hilarious that they fight so hard to keep these laws on the books while at the same time making much of the law never being enforced.
What's funny is this: "no 'legal standing' to sue city over gun ordinances"
What's funny is this: "no 'legal standing' to sue city over gun ordinances"And what's vastly funnier is that for the Philly to keep its "no legal standing" protective status, it has to not enforce its illegal "laws."
The gun loons lose, yet, another one. And they were so sure HA HA HA HA HA
The score is not in the favor of the gun control cabal.....so your laughter is a hollow echo.
"The gun loons lose, yet, another one." And win yet another one Anon."On Friday the Alabama Supreme Court struck down a state law that banned open carry on someone else’s property."http://bearingarms.com/alabama-supreme-court-overturns-state-open-carry-ban/
I have no illusions about who's winning more ground - so far.
If you are so correct, why are you losing any?
"If you are so correct, why are you losing any?" Perhaps a better question might be if your side is so right, why are you winning so few?
The Anonymous question reminds me of one that really works for me. If guns really made us safer, why isn't the US the safest country in the world by far?
Take that up with the people making that argument. There aren't many of them here. You know I say there is no correlation.But ask yourself, if guns make us less safe, why aren't we the most dangerous country in the world? You're answer to the question, is the same answer to the one you posed.
It's the gun loons who claim more guns make people safer, which of course, is proven wrong by statics/facts.
Statistics and facts. Can you give any examples of such?
"if guns make us less safe, why aren't we the most dangerous country in the world?"I'm afraid you lose on that one, TS. In any fair comparison, placing the US among other 1st world countries, and I've posted many of them, the US is the most dangerous - and by a long shot.
MikeB: “I'm afraid you lose on that one, TS. In any fair comparison, placing the US among other 1st world countries, and I've posted many of them, the US is the most dangerous - and by a long shot.”But we're not the most dangerous country in the world. Not by a long shot. We’re far below average even. You had to put a qualifier in there to eliminate most of the world. Why? You did it for socioeconomic reasons, i.e. “other factors”. There is the answer to your question. Even when you limit it to Developed Countries, you are still not correct in assuming that the US is the most dangerous “by a long shot”. We’re number 5 in murder rate.South Africa 31Mexico 21.5Bermuda 7.7Estonia 5United States 4.7I love how you have to add this “in any fair comparison” disclaimer and we see that your definition of “fair” is to exclude all countries that are more dangerous than the US. Yes Mike, apart from all the countries which are more dangerous… the USA is the most dangerous country in the world.
Typical SS, just change the question when you can't answer. Big, you claim to know the subject, but you don't know the facts, typical gun loon.
I made no such claim anon. I asked you to post your stats and facts. What is the matter, don't have any? Typical anti loon idiocy.
Just by asking you prove you don't know what's happening, yet, you claim to. Typical gun loon idiocy.
Your inability to provide any facts to back up your claims just proves your a lying loon idiot with no purpose here what so ever.
Your inability to KNOW the facts when you claim you KNOW about the issue proves you to be an idiot liar and I don't do homework for idiots.
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