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Ya know, part of me wants to read the comments here, but I rpobably won't after looking at Zero's avatar.That kind of thing ticks me off too much.Anyway, thanks for having _____________ (fill in the blank) to host the comments here.
That kind of thing ticks me off too much.Now that just warms the cockles of my heart.
"Laci IS THE Dog, NOT the human who writes this blog."Could've fooled me.
That's it, fellas, stay classy. I don't find Zorro's gravatar scary, just childish.
I have to agree with Democommie about Zero's avatar.Zero is a complete and total merchant banker.
OK, slightly more politely put...Zero, it's illegal to kill people's pets. While not rising to the level of murder, it would count as cruelty to animals.And democommie has it completely correct, Zero's avatar is immature as heck.To be quite honest, it's an uphill battle for you to prove you "pro-gun" posters are a responsible lot since you are seeing some egregious behaviour on the part of Zero.As far as I know, no one has taken him to task on your side.So, when someone like MikeB asks how can you tolerate the practises which result in gun running and so forth, it adds to the liklihood that you are choosing to be ignorant of these practises, or at least condone them.One of the points of the "That's Laci the Dog" post was that the progun crowd doesn't understand what we are saying. I am not against gun ownership, I am against the US gun culture which condones irresponsible behaviour.In fact, I am against the US gun culture that not just condones that behaviour, but enables it.Zero, the only point you make to me is that you are some who definitely should not be allowed access to a firearm.
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"Zero, it's illegal to kill people's pets. While not rising to the level of murder, it would count as cruelty to animals."That would depend upon where you live.
RuffRidr, You prove what I said.I said "shoot yourselves" not get murdered.Big difference between suicide and murder.Although, I wouldn't expect someone who became president because of an assassination and survivor of an assassination attempt to be able to grasp that fine distinction.You're another merchant banker, RuffRidr.
When the Spanish-American War broke out in 1898, Roosevelt, who was serving as the assistant secretary of the Navy, resigned his post, gathered up a scruffy company of volunteers from around the nation, and then worked with all of his might to get himself to the front in Cuba in time to be in a serious battle. His biggest fear in the late spring of 1898 was that the war would end before he could get his Rough Riders into some bloody action.Think about that.Roosevelt was a sickly child and spent a fair amount of time trying to build himself up as a hard man.As I said, RuffRidr, the only way you could make yourself more laughable would be to use JFK as your avatar.
It's kinda funny watching the person who wished that every gun owner would be murdered try and take the moral high ground.Precisely, RuffRidr. We're talking about the person (to be generous) whose reaction to the murder of Meleanie Hain was giggling (maybe guffawing), hand-clapping glee, only lessened by the fact that the murder weapon was not her own firearm. The same "person" who says:I think armed civilians make great targets!This is someone who does not sit easily in the saddle of his/her moral high horse.And Laci (or now that you claim not to be the dog, I guess I don't have a name for you--or would you prefer NotJadeGold?), as for this:Zero, the only point you make to me is that you are some who definitely should not be allowed access to a firearm.I lack the eloquence to express the breadth and depth of my utter unconcern regarding your "thoughts" (again, being generous) about whether or not I should have access to firearms. Your total inability to have any influence on the situation is another source of mirth and joy.You have a lovely day now, ya' hear?
I tell some folks I know--hunters and security professionals about some of the comments I see here, and elsewhere, from "responsible gun owners" and they just shake their heads.
Wait, Laci is calling someone else "immature?" Seriously? If you've spent 5 minutes at her site you know how hilariously ironic that is.And it's incredible to see that vile woman trying to take the moral highground. Laci's blog as got to be one of the nastiest things I've ever read. Wishing death upon those she disagrees with, "rejoicing" when someone she doesn't like is murdered in cold blood, wishing she could gun us down herself.Laci is in NO position to be claiming moral superiority to anyone.
I thought that firearms accidents such as those that happen at "Oh Shoot" didn't happen.Or do they just happen to other people.I guess you have to point fingers at me since RuffRidr is a perfect example of the ignorance I was discussingFor all TR's talk about having a gun to stave off an assassination attempt, where was it when the actual event happened?To quote democommie: I tell some folks I know--hunters and security professionals about some of the comments I see here, and elsewhere, from "responsible gun owners" and they just shake their heads.Why should I feel sorry when one of you leaves us? It only makes the world a better place.Do you really think your lot are good for society?Bye!
I have to admit a bit of hypocracy from you lot, since you also seem to 'actually “rejoice” at the death / murder of those they disagree.'BTW, MikeW. is it OK to make blanket statements about groups, such as the Jews or people whom you disagree?Dear, Dear.
I've figured out the real issue here.TR, like Meleanie Hain, were both people who talked up guns for their protection.But, what happened in reality? Both were shot by guns.Fat lot of good their guns did them in the end.You lot really don't like that fact, do you?
Laci the Chinese Crested (or NotJadeGold, if you prefer) says:I said "shoot yourselves" not get murdered.Big difference between suicide and murder.Hmm--forget about this?Can I shoot a few who want me to pry their guns from their cold, dead fingers?That sounds like not only hoping American gun owners are murdered, but hoping you're the one doing the murdering.I have a hope, too: I hope you try it.
"It's kinda funny watching the person who wished that every gun owner would be murdered try and take the moral high ground."Every bigot throughout history has believed they had the moral high ground.
Um, excuse me.Haven't you people listened to yourselves when it comes to firearms accidents and gun violence? You can make the same sorts of callous statements.But, it doesn't feel so good when it hits close to home.Zero, I can't write the exaaact words to say how I feel about you here without this post getting yanked.But I can say that the feelings are mutucal about that you clowns can't take a moral high ground on me.BTW< you need to learn the meaning of the word bigot since any animosity toward you gun cretins hardly qualifies as bigotry.I wrote a comment to Mike W. that you people are -------, but you are too effing stupid to realise that you are ------.Does that soak in?
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Oh, Come on, you want to fight the governement. Do you really think that your firearm will stop a tank or other sophisticated bit of military equipment??Also, are you lot so far from reality to think that you might get hurt with your own guns?Or does it only happen to other people?MikeW. you missed the time when I had the motto: "Puerile and proud of it" or did that go over your head? It wouldn't surprise me if it did.
democommie said, "I tell some folks I know--hunters and security professionals about some of the comments I see here, and elsewhere, from "responsible gun owners" and they just shake their heads."I've had the same experience, but I must admit most of my head shakers are bleeding-heart liberals like me.
Thank you, MikeB I have to admit that the gun crew has done a pretty poor showing here.Attack me (or my dog) rather than what I say.And then they say, pry the gun from my cold dead fingers and get upset when someone says they will take them up on the offer.Zero talks out of his ---- in that comment.
Attack me (or my dog) rather than what I say.Oh we've pretty thoroughly debunked your actual positions. That said, there's nothing wrong with questioning the content of your character as well.
BTW Laci - When are you going to get back to me on the VT statutes.It took me 5 minutes of research to prove that you were 100% full of it.
Haven't you people listened to yourselves when it comes to firearms accidents and gun violence? You can make the same sorts of callous statements.Really? because only one person here continually states that the world would be a better place if "All members of group X would just kill themselves" Oh, that's you Laci.Only one person continually states that she would like to disarm CCW holders and MURDER them. Oh right, Laci again.Only one person "rejoices" when an innocent woman who exercized her rights in a manner Laci finds disagreeable is murdered by her husband.You don't see me cheering about the death of innocent people, nor claiming that I hope all anti-gunners off themselves, or stating that I would happily pull a gun and murder people. Oh, and I don't happily talk about using other people for "target practice."You have said all of those things, and that makes you a sad, despicable creature. Sociopathic perhaps?
Laci the ChineseNotJadeGold says:Zero, I can't write the exaaact words to say how I feel about you here without this post getting yanked.But I can say that the feelings are mutucal about that you clowns can't take a moral high ground on me.BTW< you need to learn the meaning of the word bigot since any animosity toward you gun cretins hardly qualifies as bigotry.The feelings are "mutucal," eh? I'll try to remember that. As for your next "point" (to be generous)--care to show where in this thread I used the word "bigot" (or any form thereof)? And believe me--your "animosity," your contempt, your disdain, all convey honor--it's your respect that would be a grave insult.And then they say, pry the gun from my cold dead fingers and get upset when someone says they will take them up on the offer.Zero talks out of his ---- in that comment."Upset"? Nope--like I said, you're more than welcome to try--I simply brought that up to expose your lie about not expressing a wish that we be murdered. Your welcome to have that wish, and to express it--but when you claim never to have expressed it, I'll point out that indeed you have.And I wonder how I managed to "talk out of" my line of hyphens--pretty impressive of me!Have a lovely day now, ya' hear?
mikey:You use the word, "debunked" a LOT. I'm not sure if you know what it means. It doesn't mean, "I find competing stats to yours, so yours are wrong".I've sorta lost track, but I'm fairly certain that it was you that called me "a coward" on a couple of occassions, because I don't have guns. Now that is truly pathetic. Yet you like to accuse other folks of all sorts of things. I don't know how old you are, but you are truly childlike, but not in a good way.
democommie said to Mike W., "You use the word, "debunked" a LOT."I agree, he does. And I've noticed exactly what you said that his idea of "debunked" is no more authoritative then the item he's referring to, often less. I also noticed your comment on the other thread about Mike W.'s sweeping statement about "all the Joyce-funded surveys." And of course, he's the first to scream when someone else says stuff like that which cannot be substantiated.
We've shown you those bought & paid for Joyce studies right here in your comments mikeb